Advice on home security

Simmo72
Simmo72 Posts: 262
edited March 2011 in Workshop
Having just been the victim of a bike theft from my own home I'm seething with anger, partly at the scum who took my bike but also at myself for not going anything to make it more difficult to steal.

It was taken from my garage and although I could get a specialist bike box and stick it out of site in my garden the garage does make sense, providing I can secure it.

its got an up and over door which I now know can be opened by even the most basic of human life forms.

My plan is
fit a door defender
fit a basic sensor alarm
inside the garage secure some hoops into the ground to secure the bike

Does anyone have any feedback on this approach or any other suggestions. Does door defender say, hey look at me?

I have thought about keeping it tied up to a semi starved cougar but currently having some red tape issues with the rspca.

Any suggestions or feedback would be welcome
thanks

Comments

  • Wamas
    Wamas Posts: 256
    Use a wall or ground anchor to secure in your garage, with a good lock.

    You have to ask how someone knew you had a bike in their in the first place!!

    Don't advertise to passers by that you have a posh bike, so:

    - Don't leave you garage open during the day with your bike on display
    - Don't clean your bike outside your garage, take it to your back garden etc.
    - Don't leave your bike on the roof or your car, or somewhere similar outside your house.
    - If you are driving home and the bike is on your roof of the car, make sure no one is following you. Likewise if your cycling home. It has been known for people to follow people to find out where they live.
  • Wappygixer
    Wappygixer Posts: 1,396
    Is your garage door an up and over door?
    Is it the only way in/out of the garage?
    If you have a side door you should be able to use some heavy duty dolts on the runners.This prevents the door from being lifted and is not visible from the outside.
    If it is the only way in/out then a defender is probably the best way to stop it being opened.
    Use a high quality lock to your ground anchor, look at makes like Abus.Don't skimp on quality for the sake of a few quid extra.
    Fix your floor anchor with rawl bolts of a good size.This will prevent it being prised out of the floor.
    Do you have power in the garage? If so buy a cheap mains powered burglar alarm.These are much louder than the portable ones.The siren can be mounted inside out of sight too.It would scare the living daylights out of anyone if they did get through.

    Best of luck in getting your bike back but mor eluck for finding the theiving scum who took it.
  • Hoopdriver
    Hoopdriver Posts: 2,023
    I've got a Kryptonite anchor bolt in the concrete floor of our shed and one of the super-heavy duty Fahgettabout chains. I'm also very careful not to advertise the fact I've got a bike in the shed, and of course keep the shed door locked.

    And I still worry....
  • Simmo72
    Simmo72 Posts: 262
    Wamas wrote:
    Use a wall or ground anchor to secure in your garage, with a good lock.

    You have to ask how someone knew you had a bike in their in the first place!!

    they hit all 10 garages in our close, they are in a block. it was midday. I was literally heading out the door to get something from the garage when they made their escape on my bike and a neighbours. audacious or stupid? probably the latter but you have to wonder if they were prepared to take that risk what would they be prepared to do to escape? Probably very violent chaps.

    its possible that they had followed be home but I'm generally very careful and aware, I live in a quiet area so its easy to notice anything odd. I think they just targeted a garage block and got lucky. hoping their luck will run out soon.

    Hats of to the police. needle in a haystack but very heavy presence in the area today and last night, normally don't see a copper for months.

    thanks for the tips. decent ground anchor definitely on the way when I get another bike.
  • shefbiker
    shefbiker Posts: 255
    check out http://www.torc-anchors.com/index.phpfor some ideas.
    They are very helpful on the phone to talk through your options.
  • Simmo72
    Simmo72 Posts: 262
    Wappygixer wrote:
    Is your garage door an up and over door?
    Is it the only way in/out of the garage?
    If you have a side door you should be able to use some heavy duty dolts on the runners.This prevents the door from being lifted and is not visible from the outside.
    If it is the only way in/out then a defender is probably the best way to stop it being opened.
    Use a high quality lock to your ground anchor, look at makes like Abus.Don't skimp on quality for the sake of a few quid extra.
    Fix your floor anchor with rawl bolts of a good size.This will prevent it being prised out of the floor.
    Do you have power in the garage? If so buy a cheap mains powered burglar alarm.These are much louder than the portable ones.The siren can be mounted inside out of sight too.It would scare the living daylights out of anyone if they did get through.

    Best of luck in getting your bike back but mor eluck for finding the theiving scum who took it.

    It is the only way in and it is an up and over door. going to put a better lock on it but it needs more. is a defender ok for an up and over. still not sure if it just advertises there is something inside worth taking.

    thanks for the tip about abus locks and decent size rawl bolts

    Its odd, 38 years old, only 1 of those in a house without a garage and never had a problem. shows how easy it is for the scumbags. its going to get worse, the demand for bikes is on the up so therefore so are the thieving scum.
  • Garz
    Garz Posts: 1,155
    What's more demoralising is they will probably flog it off for some stupid price like £100 for some quick scag. :x
  • I keep my bike in my house with two big dogs to keep it company.If my lawnmower or half filled paint pots go missing,I'll get over it.

    Sorry to hear of your loss Simmo,I feel your pain.
  • antfly
    antfly Posts: 3,276
    How about having your garage door connected to the house alarm?
    Smarter than the average bear.
  • jefflad
    jefflad Posts: 315
    On this occasion it'd probably make no difference if it was attached to a house alarm as he was in the house and I doubt the alarm would've been on... but reading it I get the impression the garage isn't attached to the house but a little further away in a block of garages??
  • Simmo72
    Simmo72 Posts: 262
    jefflad wrote:
    On this occasion it'd probably make no difference if it was attached to a house alarm as he was in the house and I doubt the alarm would've been on... but reading it I get the impression the garage isn't attached to the house but a little further away in a block of garages??

    yep, its about 20 metres away so not far but just out of sight. they came in over a back fence out of site which I'm going to razor wire to the max. its the first crime in my immediate area for at least 5 years, lulled into a false sense of security.

    not sure whether to put the new bike in the garage with an anchor and portable alarm or get a secure metal shed for sheltered back garden, but thats another £500. £500 for a £900 bike is crazy.
  • sungod
    sungod Posts: 16,885
    if the garage walls are concrete/brick, fit a chunky wall anchor, get a wall-mount holder for the bike, and secure bike to the anchor with a big d-lock

    alight the shackle so that it is vertical, then it's harder to get leverage to try twisting it back and forth, or use a chain/lock/whatever to fill up the inside of the shackle so that there's no room to get a crowbar in there

    floor-mounted anchors mean the chain/d-lock is close to the ground where it's easier to get leverage - if you check on youtube there're videos of the heavy kryponite chains being cut with big bolt cutters

    if you put things a metre off the ground and deny leverage, then the only way the scum can get at it is with power tools

    btw i use a xena d-lock with the wall mount, it has an alarm built in, they are much tougher than the kryptonite ones... http://www.xenasecurity.com/product/bul ... 10S/page1/

    alarm on the garage door
    my bike - faster than god's and twice as shiny