Replace my zesty with a canyon?

Sambuca

Been on my lapierre zesty for a while now but have never been impressed by suspension as a whole, it's a 214 so is low end forks (rs recons) and a basic fox rear shock. Love the geometry but upgrading the suspension is so expensive I've started to look at selling and getting a canyon nerve xc 8. Spec is miles better than zesty but can't test ride obviously and wondered if anyone has any opinions? Realise it's only a 120mm bike but after a massive crash I'm only riding trails and trail centres plus local xc,

popstar

Recons aren't that bad, they do have tendency to pack up a little when going a lil higher speeds. Replacing both ends shocks will change bike big time. But to improve on Recons and Float R, you will have to spend some whack of cash. Zesty's are good bikes and strong enough frames not only for XC.

Sambuca

Yeah thats the problem really- gonna cost packets to change both ends and thats why ive thought about the change of bike Seen the recent threads on the Canyon stuff and service/spec looks so good for the money.
Think the four bar suspension seems to suit me better as well- had a spesh fsr xc pro before and a giant reign which both seemed to pedal better and be more plush at the same time than the ost on the zesty...?
Im far from an expert but from riding the same trails i just cannot get the same ride comfort from the zesty no matter what air pressures i run at either end
Realise the giant is slightly different with the meastro
Canyon is four bar right :?

popstar

I personally won't start debate on 4 bar design, which Zesty is anyway. You don't get as plush feel as your older bike due to Float R shock, Recons may contribute a little there but those are good forks once you conquer their set up.

You see, Float R has built inn pro pedal which you can't turn off. So it's a compromise between full flow and pro pedal which hinders bike feel. They are great average shock but aren't good in specific categories due to that confused plush feel.

I ride 314 and definitely know what you talking about. Set it up too plush and you get middle stroke wallowing all over the place with all travel blowing off so easily, rack more air pressure into it and bike becomes hardtail with little compliance to small bump feel.

The answer to all that would be decent PP shock IMO.

Anonymous

Oops - got confused with a Meta - scratch that! :oops:

anyway...
There's nothing wrong with the FloatR shock, the only thing the more expensive models have is more adjustability.

mattbeef

I might be barking up the wrong tree here but so if a TF setup would make a difference.

Love the setup on my Spicy and i know its a lot more hard work compared to the Kona that i had before but still its not unbearable

Atz

I'd consider getting TFTuned to Push your shock then consider a fork upgrade. Sektors will set you back around 300 for air or coil forks and the push should cost you 60-70. So those two upgrades will give you a pretty huge upgrade for less than 400 (i.e. loads cheaper than a new bike).

You can change the internal propedal setup on the float but it's a bit of a specialist job so i'd go for the service.

Sambuca

Been looking for a solution to a rear suspension problem with my zesty for a while, I know this topic had been covered recently somewhere but keep hearing that a 'push' will transform the float and the problem is the built in propedal?
Anyone know exactly what a push involves? And more importantly anyone had it done and is it an improvement?

Deputy Dawg

Sambuca wrote:

Anyone know exactly what a push involves? And more importantly anyone had it done and is it an improvement?

Looking at the blurb both at TFtuned & Push themselves, it involves a full service with Push internals being fitted. They also tune it to your weight, riding style & bike.

I've not had it done yet but if I have the spare cash when I need a service......