windows 7 mobile phones

sheepsteeth
sheepsteeth Posts: 17,418
edited February 2011 in The Crudcatcher
are they any good, if not, why not?

i kinda fancy one but i dont know anyone with one so i wonder if this is because they are webbo for whatever reason.
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  • Kitty
    Kitty Posts: 2,844
    Love mine.
  • projectsome
    projectsome Posts: 4,010
    are they any good, if not, why not?

    i kinda fancy one but i dont know anyone with one so i wonder if this is because they are webbo for whatever reason.

    looks pretty decent, but then it does depend on the phone....
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  • Daz555
    Daz555 Posts: 3,976
    Some of the handsets looks cool but it still seems that MS are a fair way behind Apple and Google at the moment when it comes to smartphones.
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  • jon87uk
    jon87uk Posts: 158
    Pro - it requires minimal hardware so spec is usually quite good
    - as all have similar spec and no customised UI are allowed updates should be easy to get hold of.
    - Now Nokia are backing it it should bring about some increase in getting new apps and updates.

    Con - Its on the back foot as Android, Apple and BB have a head start on the whole social aspect. If thats what you are after.
    - Apps again are lacking slightly.

    Erm, thats about all I can think of now. It looks ok, not really used a win7 phone for more than a few mintues. It still feels like it needs a few tweaks.
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  • If yiou get a decent one, you can run Android on it :wink:
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  • sheepsteeth
    sheepsteeth Posts: 17,418
    looks like i am getting a blackberry again after isiting the shop to have a play with some phones and finding out orange will do a bit of a deal for me as a supposed loyal customer.

    most likely a blackberry torch.
  • joshtp
    joshtp Posts: 3,966
    please, for the love of all things do not yet a BB. never has a product been more over rated than BB. personally I think BB's reign is over, the OS is poor, bbm is, frankly, a joke, and the handsets are underspeced.
    7 is good, I have a few mates with it, and it is genuinely very, very good. looks good, is fast, and, once the list of apps grows will be a big contender.
    for now though, Android is the way forward. Definately the best smartphone option at the moment.
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  • Andy
    Andy Posts: 8,207
    iPhones are better than anything with Android on.
  • sheepsteeth
    sheepsteeth Posts: 17,418
    joshtp wrote:
    please, for the love of all things do not yet a BB. never has a product been more over rated than BB. personally I think BB's reign is over, the OS is poor, bbm is, frankly, a joke, and the handsets are underspeced.
    7 is good, I have a few mates with it, and it is genuinely very, very good. looks good, is fast, and, once the list of apps grows will be a big contender.
    for now though, Android is the way forward. definitely the best smartphone option at the moment.

    hmm, ive had a blackberry for about 3 years, it has allowed me to make phone calls, send messages and write/receive emails. so im sorry but it has been done. also, the battery will last for about 5 days.

    new torch en route, 600 minutes, unlimited texts, BB email/web package, insurance and magic numbers all for 27.50, seems perty good to me.
  • joshtp
    joshtp Posts: 3,966
    Fair enough, I suppose it's mostly down to personal preference, but I hugely dislike BlackBerry. They do what they need to I suppose, but I just think that owners are a little narrow minded, as other phones can do allot more for the same cash. That is a good deal, but don't kid yourself, it's not amazing, just averagely good.

    I also think the Torch is a massively overrated handset. Much like the iPhone 3GS was, it's not much better than anything else, and is very expensive, feels "cheap" too. The 3GS only really sold because of hype, and the awesomeness of the past 2 iPhones, the Torch is similar. My mate has one, and TBH, I cant get over that she's paying £30 PM for it....

    BlackBerry need a iPhone 4/HTC Hero moment. or they risk going the way of Symbian phones, or Pre... Once big names, now mainly used for business, everyone know's they arnt that great.

    still, that's just my opinion, and if your happy, then so am I.
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  • sheepsteeth
    sheepsteeth Posts: 17,418
    hmm, i think you might be assuming everyone uses their phone for more than the ability to make calls and send messages. i dont see what else your phone is supposed to do.

    as for build, the one played with today was lovely, as have all of the blackberrys ive used (except for the storm which had a funny screen)

    as for 30 quid a month, how much do iphones and good htc phones cost?
  • That, or less....
    quote "Whyamihere"
    You're one freaky fucking bastard Phil.
  • Went from iPhone to Windows phone when it first came out.

    Love the windows phone. iPhone was boring for me in the end, it works, in fact scratch that I used to have loads of issues calls on the iphone.
    Social integration is more integrated than the iphone, you don't need separate apps to do a lot social media stuff.
  • joshtp
    joshtp Posts: 3,966
    hmm, i think you might be assuming everyone uses their phone for more than the ability to make calls and send messages. i dont see what else your phone is supposed to do.

    as for build, the one played with today was lovely, as have all of the blackberrys ive used (except for the storm which had a funny screen)

    as for 30 quid a month, how much do iphones and good htc phones cost?

    ok, but if you only ever use a phone for calls and text, why not get a simple as nokia, i have one upstairs for emergency's. the battery life is such that so far i'v only charged it once, and iv had it for over a month. it cost £5, and is as good as anything for texts and calls.

    So I do presume that, if your willing to spend £30 + a month, you MUST want want it for more than just calls and texts.

    and iPhones are expensive, but a very good HTC, Samsung, or other Android phone can be had for £20 - £25 a month.

    Wildfire, Legend, Desire, Aria, and a few other's are just the HTC phones available with a good package for less than £30. My mate got a Galaxy S for £25 a month with 600 mins, 1GB of data and unlimited texts. He got a good deal because he was a returning customer, but still, that's pretty awesome. (not that I would ever get a Galaxy S, the Desire is far better)
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  • sheepsteeth
    sheepsteeth Posts: 17,418
    no, i use it for texts and calls and email reading/writing.

    i could use an old nkia, sure, but i like a qwerty keyboard.

    this does raise an interesting question to my mind:

    what do people do with their phones and what makes their particular phone so much more suitable than the competition?

    its all well and good to say "my phone does so much stuff" but i wonder if nyone actually does that stuff, or is it more satisfying just to know it can?
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    I make calls, mainly business as I don't have any friends.
    The odd text. But I still don't understand why people don't just call instead of texting backwards and forwards. My son tries to have whole conversations with me, says it's easier?
    And it gets my office emails. Which is a bummer - no place to hide.
    I also use it as an alarm clock.
    At the moment using it as a modem as I have no internet in my new place.
    It is the best phone in the world.
    But only because it's a company phone and I don't pay for anything.
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  • For a full keyboard surely the Sony Ericson X10 mini pro is a better bet?
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  • joshtp wrote:
    please, for the love of all things do not yet a BB. never has a product been more over rated than BB. personally I think BB's reign is over, the OS is poor, bbm is, frankly, a joke, and the handsets are underspeced.
    7 is good, I have a few mates with it, and it is genuinely very, very good. looks good, is fast, and, once the list of apps grows will be a big contender.
    for now though, Android is the way forward. definitely the best smartphone option at the moment.

    hmm, ive had a blackberry for about 3 years, it has allowed me to make phone calls, send messages and write/receive emails. so im sorry but it has been done. also, the battery will last for about 5 days.

    new torch en route, 600 minutes, unlimited texts, BB email/web package, insurance and magic numbers all for 27.50, seems perty good to me.

    I'm with you on this one, i've got a blackberry as well, and have used them for many years. For me they work very well for what I need, they are reliable, normally have no bugs to work out and are nice and light for me.

    Plus I prefer the scrolling aspect with the trackmouse or whatever it is called. I like touchscreen, but not for what I needed the phone.
  • joshtp
    joshtp Posts: 3,966
    it is an interesting question of what people use their phones for.... aside from just texts and call's I use mine for:

    Web browsing, email, Twitter, blogging (occasionally), music, Spotify, camera, GPS tracking and navigation on the bike and in the car. Games on the train/bus, news and weather....


    basically I use my Phone for LOADS of stuff, and for me, Android does it all, and does it all very well.

    I too prefer using a trackball/mouse thing. And many Android Handsets have one, my Wildfire has an optical one, and it's awesome!
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  • Andy
    Andy Posts: 8,207
    joshtp wrote:
    and iPhones are expensive, but a very good HTC, Samsung, or other Android phone can be had for £20 - £25 a month

    Tesco do the iPhone for £25 quid a month so thats a poor arguement.
  • jon87uk
    jon87uk Posts: 158
    Andy wrote:
    joshtp wrote:
    and iPhones are expensive, but a very good HTC, Samsung, or other Android phone can be had for £20 - £25 a month

    Tesco do the iPhone for £25 quid a month so thats a poor arguement.

    Yes, great value when you have to pay between 222-426 up front for the handset.
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  • Andy
    Andy Posts: 8,207
    Still £25 a month.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    no, i use it for texts and calls and email reading/writing.
    Something like Android, windows phone, or an iPhone is probably more than you need then.
    Sounds to me like you'd be better off with a non-smartphone, where the battery can routinely last a week.
    Always been a fan of Nokia in that respect.

    But, yeah, I do like my windows phone. I got one to try out of curiosity, since my contract was up for renewal. I thought, If I didn't get on with it, I could always stick with my old Nokia 5800.
    But, I really like it.
  • When Nokia bring out a Win Phone 7 phone I can see myself being tempted. Always felt Nokia phones are well made and had more than a few in my time. Symbian as an OS has been dead in the water for a while though (despite still having a lot of fans who can't see it's limitations). Sticking a decent OS on them could make the difference.
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  • joshtp
    joshtp Posts: 3,966
    Andy wrote:
    Still £25 a month.

    irrelevant.


    you could get it for £10 a month if you coughed up the cash for one sim free, and then got a sim only deal.


    but you dont, because it's crap value.


    Yeeha makes the point i was trying to make quite well, if all you do is text and call, you don't really need a smartphone, any decent nokia style thing will do.

    Montevideoguy is also dead right. Nokia handset's are great, take the N8 for E.G, tech wise, it's phenomenal. It's just a shame Symbian is so outdated and generally poor.

    Nokia with Win7 will be good I hope.


    It was interesting to read what the Nokia boss said at the Nokia staff conference thing last week.... basically that Nokia have fallen behind, Symbian is poor, MeGo, will never be a real contender, and in truth they haven't made a really good phone for years. Win7 is the big one, it they don't get this right, they are sunk. They NEED to make a good phone now, or they are in trouble. And there is no excuse for their ongoing crapness.

    slightly paraphrased, but that's pretty much what the top dude at Nokia said... At least they can admit they have gone wrong....
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  • Andy
    Andy Posts: 8,207
    joshtp wrote:
    Andy wrote:
    Still £25 a month.
    irrelevant.

    No its not. You said iphones were expensive because you couldn't get them on a contract for less than £30 a month. You were wrong.
  • joshtp
    joshtp Posts: 3,966
    technically, yes, but you cant get them FREE on contract for less than £30 a month, and frankly, that's all that matters, as hardly anyone I know pay's upfront for a contract phone.


    And you definitely cant get a 4 for less than £30, and as we all know, it's the only iPhone worth having.... the 3GS is a bit of a joke IMO, it's hardly any different to the 3G, which came out in 2008. It's a dinosaur by phone standards.


    The one thing I will say about iPhones is that they are beautiful. The 4 is a work of art! And if Rumours are true, the 5 should be amazing.
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    Andy wrote:
    joshtp wrote:
    Andy wrote:
    Still £25 a month.
    irrelevant.

    No its not. You said iphones were expensive because you couldn't get them on a contract for less than £30 a month. You were wrong.
    He does have a point. If you can have android or win phone 7 for JUST 20-25 per month, the iPhone is comparatively expensive, when you have to pay a shedload up front for it.
    You know you would have agreed with that, before you went out and bought one :lol:


    The Nokia/Winphone 7 thing could be very interested indeed. I'm liking this HTC handset right now, but I've already dropped it a few times, and it's got dents in it. My old Nokias have been tough as old boots.
  • Andy
    Andy Posts: 8,207
    joshtp wrote:
    technically, yes, but you cant get them FREE on contract for less than £30 a month, and frankly, that's all that matters, as hardly anyone I know pay's upfront for a contract phone.

    Oh well if no one YOU know does, we'll just use that to make a generalisation about the entire population shall we?
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    :lol: