Rock N Roll Gold - Query

arlowood
arlowood Posts: 2,561
edited February 2011 in Workshop
Just taken delivery of some Rock N Roll Gold chain lubricant after reading that the 3-in One oil I have been using routinely is vegetable based and can lead to a build up of crud on my chain over time.

Bottle appears to have a layer of sludgy particulate material in the bottom which does disperse when you shake it. It looks as if something has separated out - maybe if the bottle was stored at too low a temperature. However, never having used Rock N Roll Gold before, I'm not sure if it is supposed to look like this.

Don't want to open it until I'm sure it's OK in case I need to send it back.

Any users out there who can

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  • yes that's the way it looks. there's a ball bearing or similar inside to help you get it all mixed up before you apply it
  • rake
    rake Posts: 3,204
    arlowood wrote:
    Just taken delivery of some Rock N Roll Gold chain lubricant after reading that the 3-in One oil I have been using routinely is vegetable based and can lead to a build up of crud on my chain over time.

    Bottle appears to have a layer of sludgy particulate material in the bottom which does disperse when you shake it. It looks as if something has separated out - maybe if the bottle was stored at too low a temperature. However, never having used Rock N Roll Gold before, I'm not sure if it is supposed to look like this.

    Don't want to open it until I'm sure it's OK in case I need to send it back.

    Any users out there who can
    try some gearbox oil or chainsaw. trouser the money.
  • Wappygixer
    Wappygixer Posts: 1,396
    Its fine, mines the same.I think it the chemical base they use to both clean and lube the chain.
    Good stuff too I might add.
  • arlowood
    arlowood Posts: 2,561
    OK finished the chain cleaning today and had a go at applying the Rock N Roll Gold as received from Wiggle (see my description as OP)

    The bottle comes with a smallish knozzle that you have to pierce to allow the lubricant to flow out. First attempt after piercing with a nail and shaking the bottle vigorously was a failure as the sludgy material just blocked the knozzle immediately.

    Second attempt after widening the hole was a bit better as I did manage to get some lubricant on to the chain but again the flow was intermittent as the sludge got in the way again.

    Just having difficulty understanding the benefit if a lubricant that appears to have waxy stuff suspended in an oily medium - particularly in the case of my example where the waxy suspended material just gets stuck in the knozzle!!!???

    I can't help thinking that the bottle I received has been in a warehouse somewhere during the sub zero weather we've had of late. (The label does say that it should not be stored below 40 deg F). This has probably caused the suspended material to coagulate into larger waxy flakes that won't pass through the knozzle.


    Anyone have experience of using this product without getting problems with the knozzle blocking?
  • RHT
    RHT Posts: 34
    Not sure if this helps. I use R'R gold all the time, a good shake and the separated liquids blend. Rotating the chain backwards, I apply quite a bit, then run the chain a bit more to make sure its well soaked in. Then give it a really good wipe off. Never had a problem.

    Regarding your concern about it being left in a cold warehouse, all I can say is I left the bottle out in cold conditions a couple of weeks back, the whole bottle congealed, and went cloudy white, a couple of hours back inside the house, and it was back to normal.
  • Wappygixer
    Wappygixer Posts: 1,396
    I've just checked my bottle too.
    Its been sat in the shed all winter.The shed gets so cold that I even get ice on the inside of the windows.
    Pulled the bottle out and a good shake for 5-6 seconds and its fine.
    I am starting to wonder if you have a dodgy bottle
  • arlowood
    arlowood Posts: 2,561
    OK guys

    I may have solved the problem at least temporarily.

    Thinking around the possibility that the bottle had been frozen at some point, I popped it into some warm water for 30 mins or so an - Hey Presto! the waxy flakes have disappeared and the majority of the sludge has redispersed/ redissolved into the main fluid

    Still some suspended material there but it looks to be quite fine and seems to mix uniformly when the bottle is shaken vigorously.

    Will just apply this technique in future before I apply lubricant. It's possible that the formula has become destabilized and that is the reason for the large waxy flaxes that have caused the problem.
  • if its blocking the nozzle it isnt gunna get into the small gaps in the chain then... meaning its not doing what a lube is meant to do! i.e get into all the nooks and crannies to lube the links!
    think i will stick to the GT85 ive been using for mountain bikies and road bike for last 15 odd years and i bet my chains dont deteriate as quick as ones that use a lube that doesnt get into the small nooks and crannies.

    but its all a personal thing!