How do you think...

bobpzero

same as what he said.
& hopefully northern ireland will have "official" xc/dh trails (with loads of singletrack) before the next ten years.

phz

next 10 years ?

increasingly advanced bikes but no trail centres to ride them in once tory boy sells off all the FC land ...

slainte :roll: rob

supersonic

Anti squat is the relationship between acceleration and traction

Anti squat is the force produced by chain tension and axle drive that opposes the squat. 100% anti squat and the rear shock will not move under steady state acceleration. WHat makes you think VPP is more 'balanced' than other systems?

wordnumb

The Northern Monkey wrote:

Mountain biking will change in the next 10 years?

The main thing will be that sometime within the next decade Nicklouse and Supersonic will crack from recommending Toras and suggesting people read the faqs and will go on a killing spree. This will lead to clearer trails and lots of rockshox bargains on ebay.

That and somebody will produce a full suspension penny farthing, just to find the limits of the more money than sense conundrum.

themanfromdelmonte

cooldad wrote:

Oleo sounds like a name for cheap margarine.

I hope they don't get too complicated. Already cars are too difficult for the average person to fix and need a diagnostic thingy to even find a fault. Be a pity if bikes become so hard to maintain they are effectively disposable.

Nah, it's what the Chinese call Oreos........

Should I have put "I'm not racist but....." before that? .

/goes back to Daily Mail.

sheepsteeth

i dont think a lot will have change in 10 years time really for most riders in the real world, stuff will be lighter and stronger and hopefully the maxim about cheap, light and strong wont work so well

longer travel will have become more fashionable then less fashionable a bunch of times and we will still have different folk on different bikes,

i do think more folk will be on fs bikes, i think there will be plentyr of folk on ht bikes but fs bikes will start to get worth a punt at cheaper price points making them more accessible for more folk.

i agree with the sentiments about hoping bikes dont get to technically difficult to work on. my fave thing about owning bikes is tinkering with, upgrading and adjusting them, id lose interest in the mechanical side of bikes if i had to have an electrical engineering degree to swap a set of shifters or figure out what was wrong with them when faults arose.

wobbem

At present immigration influx levels , there will be no place to stand let alone ride in the UK and we will ll be doing it online virtually with smell o vision. Might not be that bad if you crash off a cliiff just switch to the porn channel :oops:

jayson

If we're not all killed off by the innevitable nuclear apocalypse i think we'll see great things come in the form of as yet unknown materials especially when nano technology is really understood more.

Super lightweight and ultra strong materials will become the norm and we'll all wonder how we ever managed to live without them.

I can quite easily foresee a 10lb 140-150mm travel bike with fully adjustable geometry and suspension action so that the holy grail of a true 'do it all' mtb will become the norm and the days of the hardtail mtb will be long gone with fully tunable suspension that truly only works when needed.

Ok maybe im thinking abit more than 10 yrs but its innevitable and will happen in no more than 20yrs from now im absolutely convinced.

sheepsteeth

i think bikes for harder riding will reach a limit of acceptable weight, i dont know if i am alone in feeling a bit uncomfortable on steeper and rougher terrain without a bit of heft to my bike.

i used to feel vulnerable on a roadbike at about 18-19lbs on smooth tarmac let alone off road on something lighter than about 27lbs!

i wonder if thats all a state of mnd though based on what is a typical build in the current market., perhaps if weights gradually drop they would be easier to accept?

sheepsteehthisaknob

the future will be rigid single speeds

dunno but marketing men will tell you what you need to buy

its up to you to THINK what you need
can you go bigger faster longer ?
todays full suss wonder bikes are the ford focus of the mtb world
competent efficcent and if your racing pretty much the bawws
fun .............well not really

fun anyone ?

bike-a-swan

jayson wrote:

I can quite easily foresee a 10lb 140-150mm travel bike with fully adjustable geometry and suspension action so that the holy grail of a true 'do it all' mtb will become the norm and the days of the hardtail mtb will be long gone with fully tunable suspension that truly only works when needed.

I'm not sure we'll ever see a true 'holy grail' bike- all round bikes will get more and more competent, but if you can build an all round bike at a certain weight/price/stiffness/whatever, then you can build a specific race or dh bike lighter/cheaper etc. By their nature, all-rounders will always be compromised at the extremes. Not bad, just compared to more focussed designs. I'm with sheeps on there remaining different kinds of bikes, and the fact that fs will probably start creeping down the price points again.

ddraver

hmm, I know what you mean but I'm not sure... I think if someone really sorts out Travel/Adjust Geometry without a whole load of extra weight then i think it will become alot more popular...

There will certainly be low travel versions and big travel versions (Me and yeehaa disagree but I still think that too much travel takes some of the fun out of "average" trails) and there will be specific bikes for specific tasks (XC racing vs DH racing for example)

We are already starting to see Roadies built specifically for use with electronic shifting (batteries and wires integrated into frames etc) and I reckon this will be the way that that goes

This will inevitably lead to bikes with entirely proprietary designs, I thought for a long time that this was the way it was going to go but it's interesting to observe Specialized struggling to compete with the established experts

sheepsteeth

ddraver wrote:

I think if someone really sorts out Travel/Adjust Geometry without a whole load of extra weight then i think it will become alot more popular...

thing is, bionicon has the travel and geo thing sewn up

ddraver

sheepsteeth wrote:

ddraver wrote:

I think if someone really sorts out Travel/Adjust Geometry without a whole load of extra weight then i think it will become alot more popular...

thing is, bionicon has the travel and geo thing sewn up

Oh really? With patents and stuff? That's a shame!

sheepsteeth

by sewn up i mean done right already.

ddraver

oh...not all that popular for all of that though....

I think it will take something totally new mind!

Anonymous

ddraver wrote:

oh...not all that popular for all of that though....

Only cause it's not "trendy"

Northwind

I had a go on a Bionicon, a Golden Willow I think it was, the suspension shifting thing worked but the suspension action wasn't very good, fork felt like a rockshox turnkey or something. Don't know if they're always like that or if this was a duffer but it ruined it a bit

Anonymous

What's wrong with Rockshox turnkey?

Northwind

Nothing, it does the job it's supposed to do pretty well. But the Bionicon is a big clever machine and I was eyeing one up for the job I got my Hemlock to do, and the suspension more than outdid the cleverness for me, it wasn't very controlled when things got lumpy. Oh just checked, it was a Supershuttle not a Golden Willow. Seemed good value but for the sort of riding it seemed like it should be used for, I'd want suspension that can cash the cheques that the cleverness writes really, at least as good as motion control. Still, very cool. Interested to try the newer models.

Barteos

in 10 years time...

If the economical situation doesn't change or gets worse, many riders may be attracted to simpler, cheaper to maintain more reliable bikes - hardtails, fully rigid 29ers, BB7 brakes, alloy and steel frames, hub gears, single speeds etc.

Forums and trails will be free of intolerant c**ks criticizing other people's choices regarding the type of bike and the frame material.

andyrm

Northwind wrote:

I had a go on a Bionicon, a Golden Willow I think it was, the suspension shifting thing worked but the suspension action wasn't very good, fork felt like a rockshox turnkey or something. Don't know if they're always like that or if this was a duffer but it ruined it a bit

Interesting point you make here - was out with a mate on a demo Tesla the other week and it felt noticeably less "smooth" than my 12 month old Edison. We faffed around a bit and it appears that the issue is the wiper seals are pretty tight at first and have a fair bit of stiction. A quick blast of silicone spray onto the stanchions soon sorted it and it's something I keep meaning to mention to Roger at Bionicon about the demo bikes when they're new and also for when the bikes leave the shop for the first time as well........

lochussie

I would like to say loads of cheap, quality, carbon 140mm bikes. But: UK economy is screwed, people earning less, pound weaker, global commodity prices up. I think this will counteract the trickle down effect and progress of technology, leaving your average punter no better off than today. Couple this with less funding for riding locations and H&S and the future isn't rosy. I hope to be proved wrong.

I don't want to see my bike getting any harder to fix than it already is, or a move away from cross-compatibility. And there should be more consensus on what is a good bike, with less of the each to his own.

daccordimark

lochussie wrote:

Couple this with less funding for riding locations and H&S and the future isn't rosy. I hope to be proved wrong.

Perhaps people would then discover the joys of just riding a bike in the countryside rather than round glorified theme parks.

Northwind

daccordimark wrote:

Perhaps people would then discover the joys of just riding a bike in the countryside rather than round glorified theme parks.

See, the thing about the theme parks vs countryside thing is, there's not that many rollercoasters in the countryside