Who on BR has bought a 'cheap' Chinese carbon frame?

buder

Percy Vera wrote:

danowat wrote:

Bit shady that.

Stickering up a "replica" for yourself because you like the design is one thing, but stickering up a replica to hawk at a VASTLY inflated price is a whole different kettle of fish IMO

+1 !

IMO the stickers spoil a lovely bike and makes the sale of it all the more unscrupulous as people will immediately look and think its a fake even though its specified as being a "replica" although that's certainly not the case a sticker does not make a replica.

I just dont get it especially as the stickers went on the other week !?, why the sudden sale or were the stickers to enhance the sale ?.

The price is unreal surely that's wrong it cant be gbb !?.

gb155

Thanks for alerting me to this

I asked someone to List my Cannondale, Ended up with my FM028 getting listed on there too, Its now been removed tho.......It's not for sale !

petemadoc

gb155 wrote:

Thanks for alerting me to this

I asked someone to List my Cannondale, Ended up with my FM028 getting listed on there too, Its now been removed tho.......It's not for sale !

Case closed

stardude

Fogliettaz wrote:

These arrived today from Yishun hope to get them fitted and go for a spin tomorrow.

ooo, how much were they? about £300?

how heavy are they? about 1400g for the pair?

are they novatech hubs? how do they feel?

i'm looking at getting a similar set

Aggieboy

stardude wrote:

Fogliettaz wrote:

These arrived today from Yishun hope to get them fitted and go for a spin tomorrow.

ooo, how much were they? about £300?

how heavy are they? about 1400g for the pair?

are they novatech hubs? how do they feel?

i'm looking at getting a similar set

Upgrading the 'Boris bikes'?

stardude

Aggieboy wrote:

Upgrading the 'Boris bikes'?

lol something like that, apparently they aren't fast enough...

Fogliettaz

I have not weighed them but they are far lighter than the Campag Khamsins that they have replaced. Took them out on a 30 km loop this evening and they are also far faster. I was quite apprehensive that they do not seem strong enough but they stood up to the Dengie Marsh roads well enough. Shame the tyres ( Michelin Pro Race) didn't as I punctured after 20 km! I have not changed the brake blocks yet as the ones sent with the wheels do not fit with current Campag brakes! So I am trying not to brake to hard.
The hubs are Novatech or Chosen.

robjdixon

So I've been looking around, and have found e_baygoods, who seems to be selling similar rames as well, but at much reduced prices from the others. Other than the price, they also have the attraction (for me) of not needing a BB30 bottom bracket (as I'm swapping components from another frame that is too small)

Has anyone dealt with this company?

Links for frames:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Full-Carbon-Road-Bike-Bicycle-Frame-58cm-Fork-/270743375210?pt=Road_Bikes&hash=item3f09900d6a#ht_1776wt_1139

http://cgi.ebay.com/Full-Carbon-Road-Bike-Bicycle-Frame-58cm-Fork-/350454091697?pt=Road_Bikes&hash=item5198b10fb1#ht_2580wt_1139

Thanks

danowat

What I want to know is.......when will one of these Chinese carbon manufacturers produce a rear disc wheel, I'd be over the moon if they did (and a tri-spoke front would be the icing on the cake.....)

benjboy

danowat wrote:

What I want to know is.......when will one of these Chinese carbon manufacturers produce a rear disc wheel, I'd be over the moon if they did (and a tri-spoke front would be the icing on the cake.....)

+1

stardude

danowat wrote:

What I want to know is.......when will one of these Chinese carbon manufacturers produce a rear disc wheel, I'd be over the moon if they did (and a tri-spoke front would be the icing on the cake.....)

http://www.alibaba.com/products/carbon_disc_wheel/--122207.html

http://www.alibaba.com/products/carbon_spoke_wheel/--122207.html

slunker

robjdixon wrote:

So I've been looking around, and have found e_baygoods, who seems to be selling similar rames as well, but at much reduced prices from the others. Other than the price, they also have the attraction (for me) of not needing a BB30 bottom bracket (as I'm swapping components from another frame that is too small)

Has anyone dealt with this company?

Links for frames:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Full-Carbon-Road-Bike-Bicycle-Frame-58cm-Fork-/270743375210?pt=Road_Bikes&hash=item3f09900d6a#ht_1776wt_1139

http://cgi.ebay.com/Full-Carbon-Road-Bike-Bicycle-Frame-58cm-Fork-/350454091697?pt=Road_Bikes&hash=item5198b10fb1#ht_2580wt_1139

Thanks

Got my "de Rosa/Ribble" from them this week. Only took 2 weeks to arrive from order. Built the bike up yesterday and going out for a test ride tonight. It looks lovely and if it rides well the Wilier Izoard will be for sale soon!!!

ballspondroad

The de Rosa-Somec-Anon certainly seem to be out of the same mould but are they the same lay-up schedule, carbon, resin and construction technique ?

gb155

Would the FM015 be considered as Aggressive (Ala my CAAD 9 ?)

danowat

stardude wrote:

danowat wrote:

What I want to know is.......when will one of these Chinese carbon manufacturers produce a rear disc wheel, I'd be over the moon if they did (and a tri-spoke front would be the icing on the cake.....)

http://www.alibaba.com/products/carbon_disc_wheel/--122207.html

http://www.alibaba.com/products/carbon_spoke_wheel/--122207.html

They are for wholesalers / stockists though aren't they?

amaferanga

danowat wrote:

stardude wrote:

danowat wrote:

What I want to know is.......when will one of these Chinese carbon manufacturers produce a rear disc wheel, I'd be over the moon if they did (and a tri-spoke front would be the icing on the cake.....)

http://www.alibaba.com/products/carbon_disc_wheel/--122207.html

http://www.alibaba.com/products/carbon_spoke_wheel/--122207.html

They are for wholesalers / stockists though aren't they?

No. Usually you can buy direct. They almost always state the minimum order number - most are 1 piece.

Anonymous

Nope, contact the sellers who say min shipment of 1...

danowat

My paypal account just let out a little yelp.......

petemadoc

danowat wrote:

My paypal account just let out a little yelp.......

Nice work!

We demand pictures once received

Which one did you go for?

benjboy

Has anyone bought a disc wheel from china ?. If so how much and what is the quality like or would i be better going for a 88mm rear wheel only, as i have already got a 60mm front wheel.

designman

Is it possible to buy 50mm Carbon Clinchers from anyone in china for less than £500?

stardude

designman wrote:

Is it possible to buy 50mm Carbon Clinchers from anyone in china for less than £500?

£311 for the pair. different finishes and colours available

http://shhongying.en.alibaba.com/product/396136594-210067307/Clincher_carbon_fiber_50mm_wheels_road_bike_wheel_700C.html

kfinlay

designman wrote:

Is it possible to buy 50mm Carbon Clinchers from anyone in china for less than £500?

Or email Carbonzone on Ebay they charge $490 which is around £300-£320.
You can spec the colour of hub, spoke and nipples too!

amaferanga

I've been enquiring about carbon clincher rims through Alibaba. There is a huger variation in the price quoted and the weight of the rims varies by about 50g. I'd shop around instead of going straight to Carbonzone and see what you can find.

I've been quoted from about $130 - $200 each rim plus around $60 postage. So if you bought the rims you could build up a superb (and light) set of 50mm clinchers with plush hubs and Sapim CX-rays for less than £500.

matt5311

mcrdave wrote:

I have, from ebay, no probs so far.

looks very similar to my cube agree gtc

Velonutter

I have just bought this for my Daughter to ride the London to Paris ride this year: -

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/300553332450



They chucked in a free Headset and charged me just £19 for a Carbon Seat Post.

Excellent comms as well.

Anyone know what size seat clamp I need?

I'll let you know what it builds like when it arrives.

pjm300

im looking to buy something pretty much identical for my gf.
very interested to hear of delivery times etc for this

rc856

amaferanga wrote:

I've been enquiring about carbon clincher rims through Alibaba. There is a huger variation in the price quoted and the weight of the rims varies by about 50g. I'd shop around instead of going straight to Carbonzone and see what you can find.

I've been quoted from about $130 - $200 each rim plus around $60 postage. So if you bought the rims you could build up a superb (and light) set of 50mm clinchers with plush hubs and Sapim CX-rays for less than £500.

Hi,
Am I right in thinking the main places to contact are Dengfu, Yishun and Carbonzone?
I always read about deep section carbon rims but I only want 'regular' or medium. Think my Zondas are 30mm.

I don't race, just a club rider, so would the 38mm be best? I think Dengfu might do a 20mm?

I like the idea of getting rims only but even at the max quoted of £200/£120, is that good value? Are they that much lighter?
I'm just comparing it to a quick look on Parker who sell DT Swiss rims (not carbon, I know) for £64 so wondered if the carbon are worth it?

Also, not knowing much about hubs, is it best/safe/cheapest to get the full wheel made or are there lighter hubs that a local builder could make up with the rims?

Thanks

amaferanga

RC856 wrote:

Hi,
Am I right in thinking the main places to contact are Dengfu, Yishun and Carbonzone?
I always read about deep section carbon rims but I only want 'regular' or medium. Think my Zondas are 30mm.

I don't race, just a club rider, so would the 38mm be best? I think Dengfu might do a 20mm?

I like the idea of getting rims only but even at the max quoted of £200/£120, is that good value? Are they that much lighter?
I'm just comparing it to a quick look on Parker who sell DT Swiss rims (not carbon, I know) for £64 so wondered if the carbon are worth it?

Also, not knowing much about hubs, is it best/safe/cheapest to get the full wheel made or are there lighter hubs that a local builder could make up with the rims?

Thanks

If you were to go for 20mm rims then you could get rims that weigh less than 300g each. 38mm carbon rims would come in at about 350g. 50mm rims come in at about 410-460g. The deep section DT Swiss rims weight 585g. So you could save over 200g per rim going for the 38mm carbon rims - that's a noticeable difference.

But you can get 30mm alloy clincher rims that weigh about 460g. That's what I have at the moment - IRD Cadence Aero (aka Kinlin xr-300 and Halo Mercury). TBH for a general set of wheels to use in all conditions all year round you'd probably be better with the IRD/Kinlin/Halo rims. I'm just after something a little more aero (and bling) and that means it has to be full carbon else they'd be way too heavy. I only plan to use them through the summer.

As for hubs, the more you pay the better/lighter the hubs become. I think most of the Chinese ready built wheels use Novatec hubs which seem to be pretty good value and they're reasonably light (Planet X Superlight hubs are rebadged Novatec I believe). If you were to go for the Chinese carbon wheels you'd probably be best just to get a ready built set - the only reason I'm not doing that is that I intend to build one of the rims onto a PowerTap hub.

Flamez

i pulled the trigger on this frame tonight,

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250814862948&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_2284wt_922

I have a full set of integra to go on with mavic aksium whels

Decided to leave the frame bare and not paint it.

The seller reponded within 8 hours (time difference i guess) and marked it as dispatched.

Hope i escape custom fees etc..