Muddyfox rage forks

oliverpool

My mum just bought me a muddyfox rage but as i live by the 7 stanes i ride the red a lot but the front forks seem to make a nasty noise when i go over a jump and i am trying to get new ones to use for downhill would MTB 26" DOWNHILL SUSPENSION FORK TOP-GUN DH-E 22.2 NOS fit on the bike?

bluechair84

Well... It's a £20 fork from what I can see. I imagine it will be worse than the fork you currently have and I doubt anyone on here would have any experience with it. It's not a fork to upgrade to if you want more control from your fork. You may want to look for a second hand fork that was once upon a time worth much more. I don't know much about the bike either but it looks like it would be most suitable for a fork with 100mm of travel.

You could search for Manitou Black or Rockshox Tora. If you watch a few closely you might see one go for around the £50 mark.

Final thing to watch out for, don't accidentally buy a fork with the wrong dropouts - make sure they are quick release (QR).

oliverpool

Thanks for that but how do you know what type of 'Head set' you have and whats a headtube length?

bluechair84

Just to be certain we know what products you are referring to, you sould give us websites or links to the product. I've found this bike:

Is this your rage?
If so you have a 1-1/8th headset - the most popular type.
The headtube length is the length of the verticle bit of pipe at the front of the frame. The forks pass through this pipe and out the otherside where the stem clamps around it. You are basically measuring the tube that the badge of your bike is stuck to.

oliverpool

thats my rage but will that mean i would only be able to get 100mm forks for it?

oliverpool

As this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ZOOM-FRONT-SUSPEN ... 19c030c262
is the kind of fork i was looking to get or the MTB 26" DOWNHILL SUSPENSION FORK TOP-GUN DH-E 22.2 NOS

bluechair84

It's debatable. Some people will say if you add a longer travel fork it will a) throw the geometry off possibly giving it undesirable characteristics and b) put stress on the frame where it hasn't been designed to take extra stress. Others however do it regularly and push the limits of the frame by going maybe, 20mm over.
If you're willing to risk it, try a 120mm fork 8) I'm always up for more travel! I think the toras and blacks come in 120mm guises still... But you have been warned...

You could do other thigns to make it a bit more aggressive - get a shorter stem, get a big knobbly front tyre allowing the back to drift a little... And get to Glentress and Spooky Woods, awesome descent.

MountainMonster

That would be a terrible waste of money. Personally there is no reason to put downhill forks on your bike, you will just snap the headtube off because it can't handle anything over 100mm from the looks of it. It's not really worth upgrading the bike if you ask me, save the money and get yourself a good bike.

From what I can see the bike only costs 140 brand new, and comes with the bottom of the barrel parts fitted to it. I'd be surprised if the bike could even handle being babied down even the beginner route at my local trail without it breaking to pieces.

bluechair84

oliverpool wrote:

As this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ZOOM-FRONT-SUSPEN ... 19c030c262
is the kind of fork i was looking to get[/img]

Yeah that didn't come from a 'quality' mountain bike :?
Stick with something from a quality brand - Rockshox, Marzocchi, Some manitou forks... You definatley need to increase your budget I'm sorry to say.

How about this; Rockshox psylo going very cheap. Email the guy and check they are working fine but I bet they'd last a thrashing on the stanes longer than Zoom forks
U-turn means you can adjust the travel, nic and short for going up hill, nice and long for going downhill.

oliverpool

would Rockshox Recon SL 100mm forks 2008 be a good choice for forks?

soz about all the questions anyway im 13 and i had a cheap halfords bike before that i smashed up at dalbeatie and i dont want it to happen again to me.

oliverpool

yeh thanks il take a look at that

MountainMonster

Unfortunately with bikes in the price range your looking at will get smashed up from riding through anything with even a bump on. They not designed to be ridden hard at all, and by hard at all I mean at least even on a gravel road something will break.

Save up 600 or so if any way possible, or save what you can and maybe for christmas toss it in with your parents pot of money and buy a Specialized Rockhopper or something. Will be worlds better than an bike you've got now, and can handle a good it of thrashing without being torn to shreds.

thel33ter

Anything around 100mm will be fine, although as said above, you would be better off getting a decent cheapish second hand hardtail or full suspension instead of new forks.

I'm 14-15 and have bought paid for 3 of the 4 bikes in my sig myself, the Kona was a B-day present, heavily discounted though.

You just need to save, scour ebay and the cassifieds, and hassle the parents


I can reccomend the Marin's with this frame, it was my first bike, and after being hammered by a chubby 12 year old who could barely ride a bike, it still rode nicely when I sold it and they normally go for around £150-£200 for a nice condition one.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Marin-East-Peak-1 ... 3361c10528

bluechair84

MountainMonster wrote:

That would be a terrible waste of money. Personally there is no reason to put downhill forks on your bike, you will just snap the headtube off because it can't handle anything over 100mm from the looks of it. It's not really worth upgrading the bike if you ask me, save the money and get yourself a good bike.

From what I can see the bike only costs 140 brand new, and comes with the bottom of the barrel parts fitted to it. I'd be surprised if the bike could even handle being babied down even the beginner route at my local trail without it breaking to pieces.

I think you'd be surprised. Bikes can take a hell of a lot of abuse. I learnt on a bottom of the range Baracuda with dual crown forks and cable disc brakes worth a bag of chips n bits! I rode that thing like a bronco and it made me a better rider. And with a budget of £10 for forks, it hardly matters. The bike isn't worth anything second hand.

Besides. The advice anywhere else on the thread is why bother upgrading until you've broken it. Ride it till it's knackered and be saving for your first decent bike. A bike like this saw me very well through my first year of abusive riding.

But I won't argue with upgrading, there's too much to warrant spending much money on it. Enjoy you're bike! i certainly did, kick it's ass on those descents!

MountainMonster

bluechair84 wrote:

MountainMonster wrote:

That would be a terrible waste of money. Personally there is no reason to put downhill forks on your bike, you will just snap the headtube off because it can't handle anything over 100mm from the looks of it. It's not really worth upgrading the bike if you ask me, save the money and get yourself a good bike.

From what I can see the bike only costs 140 brand new, and comes with the bottom of the barrel parts fitted to it. I'd be surprised if the bike could even handle being babied down even the beginner route at my local trail without it breaking to pieces.

I think you'd be surprised. Bikes can take a hell of a lot of abuse. I learnt on a bottom of the range Baracuda with dual crown forks and cable disc brakes worth a bag of chips n bits! I rode that thing like a bronco and it made me a better rider. And with a budget of £10 for forks, it hardly matters. The bike isn't worth anything second hand.

Besides. The advice anywhere else on the thread is why bother upgrading until you've broken it. Ride it till it's knackered and be saving for your first decent bike. A bike like this saw me very well through my first year of abusive riding.

But I won't argue with upgrading, there's too much to warrant spending much money on it. Enjoy you're bike! i certainly did, kick it's ass on those descents!

Yeah I know exactly what you mean, ridden plenty BSO's in my time, and they do make you better, but I would never have upgraded any part on it. But at the end of the day bikes are like cars, I wouldn't start putting performance parts on some brand new 5k Hyundai car because at the end of the day it just would not be money well spent because it's just not a good vehicle.

My point is ride, trash that bike, and when it's trashed have the cash to buy a rockhopper or something. Don't waste the money on fixing it, or even replacing to another similar bike if you want to do any serious riding.

bluechair84

Aye, but those psylos have a day left, no bids and are at £10 - they will be a massive improvement over what he has for very little money seeing as they originally sold for £300. It would be a good first foray into the world of real mountain biking components.
Agree with Mountain, you don't want to be spending [alot] of money on the bike - start putting away for your first mountain bike - but you're going to have a shed load of fun on that first