Fulcrum Racing 5 OR Bracianno's?

bendertherobot
bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
edited October 2010 in Road buying advice
Seems easy to be fair.

The Bracianno's are lighter and not a huge amount more money.

But, this is for a winter bike, are the Bracianno's strong enough?
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  • sheffsimon
    sheffsimon Posts: 1,282
    Just discovered this morning as I was wheeling the bike out to ride to work that I have worn through the rim on my Fulcrum 5 back wheel.

    Its been in use as a commuting/winter/training/racing wheel for 2 years, and has not been an ounce of bother, and has never needed any truing, despite being hammered over some of Sheffield's billiard table-like industrial back streets.

    Now looking for another and would prefer same again.
  • dmch2
    dmch2 Posts: 731
    I tried to get a discussion on this more generally. It seems that PX model Bs and the Bracchianos are very light and cheap but the stiffness suffers to the extent that Fulcrum (5 and 3) and Shimano (RS80, DA) are the better buys despite being 100g heavier.

    Not sure where mavic fit in as there are so many types of kysrium and askiums are really heavy (but really strong?)

    I think fulcrum 5s are top of my list.
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  • That's my thinking. I'm going from a 2300g set to 1750g or so so the weight saving is still considerable.

    The sound will drive me spare, of course.
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  • mroli
    mroli Posts: 3,622
    My PX Model B's are stiffer than my Mavic Aksiums. I know this because if I am really putting the power down going up hills I will sometimes get a bit of brake rub out of my Aksiums (two sets) and never have out of my Model B's. I'm thinking of the Braccianos too - at Ribble's prices, they seem a steal.
  • Always the Fulcrum for me - I have 3 different pairs - i wouldnt hesitate to buy a bike with them and the R1's are v special
  • mroli wrote:
    My PX Model B's are stiffer than my Mavic Aksiums. I know this because if I am really putting the power down going up hills I will sometimes get a bit of brake rub out of my Aksiums (two sets) and never have out of my Model B's. I'm thinking of the Braccianos too - at Ribble's prices, they seem a steal.

    Indeed. Though the F5's are £20 less.

    Choices.................
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  • floosy
    floosy Posts: 270
    5s would be my choice also... Had mine for 18 months. Now done about 6k miles without a single problem (but I am only 60kg`s so may have some bearing on it)

    Dave.
  • dmch2
    dmch2 Posts: 731
    Planet x have a sale on so fulcrums are very cheap there. Careful you don't get tempted by fulcrum 3s reduced to well under 300!
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  • ride_whenever
    ride_whenever Posts: 13,279
    Why not just stick a new rim on with new spokes?
  • yaya
    yaya Posts: 411
    dmch2 wrote:
    Planet x have a sale on so fulcrums are very cheap there. Careful you don't get tempted by fulcrum 3s reduced to well under 300!

    I was tempted:-) A few months back when I was building my CR1 I found 3's on eBay (brand new from a real shop) for £265...

    Fairly light and so far no issues whatsoever. > 2000 miles on country and city roads inc. some rain and they're still true and fast...
  • dmch2
    dmch2 Posts: 731
    I'd best start saving and hope the sales are as good next year for fulrum 3s!

    My trek 1.5 now has now been upgraded to have decent brake blocks and tyres. Once I get decent wheels I reckon that's about as far as makes sense upgrading it.

    The tiagra stuff is perfectly nice and will take years to wear out. Maybe replacing the square taper BB (and therefore the bottom of the range FSA chainset) when it gets a bit worn and i feel rich?
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  • Can't comment on the Fulcrums, but I have recently upgraded my BeOne to the Braccianos. They are a dream to ride, for me at least. They came perfectly true and evenly tensioned. I've only put a couple of hundred miles on them so far so I can't comment long term, but so far they're still perfectly true. East Lothian's roads aren't exactly good, and I'm about 83 kg.

    The freewheel's almost silent, and the acceleration has me breaking into a huge smile every time. They seem both stiff and very comfortable, which is a pretty good combination. I'm not too worried about the longevity, due to the quality of the build. Time will tell, of course.
  • unixnerd
    unixnerd Posts: 2,864
    UndercoverElephant has it spot on, I just bought Pro-Lites and love them. Can't comment on longevity though.

    If money were no object I'd get Mavic Kstrium Elites, but they're over double the price.
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  • Hmm, ta chaps,

    I'll throw these in?

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  • ADIHEAD
    ADIHEAD Posts: 575
    My Bracciano's arrived Friday to give my Ksyrium Elites a rest for the winter. I wore the rims out my previous set of Elites after about 10k - still usable but thought I'd sell em before they weren't! My logic for the Bracciano's is that they're lighter than my Elites so I can use heavier, 25mm tyres (Rubino Pro Tech's) whilst still saving weight. They're hand built so therefore easy to repair. A quote for new rims fitted with spokes on the Ksyruims was just under £300!

    A friend of mine wore out the rims his Fulcrum 3's in 18months, not helped by a few wet trips to the Lake District but the rider is only 82kgs, The distributor couldn't offer any form of advice or repair so that would put me off Fulcrums for winter use.

    Anyway weather still good so not put the Bracciano's on yet but reports are all good.
  • unixnerd
    unixnerd Posts: 2,864
    I looked at the Ultregra wheels myself along with the Shimano RS80s. One thing I don't like is that most (all?) of them are cup and cone bearings. I far prefer a wheel with a cartridge bearing. I had to replace one on my mtb, it cost me under 2 quid per bearing and took no time at all do with no mess.

    And they're double the price of the Brachiannos.
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  • Not double, £50 more than Ribble's Bracciano price.

    When that goes tomorrow they;ll both be around £229
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  • unixnerd
    unixnerd Posts: 2,864
    Sorry, you're right. I was looking at the rrp! At that price they seem a real bargain and the weight difference compared to the Braccianos is minimal.
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