Ribble bike buying guide - Sportive, Stealth, Gran Fondo etc
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rozzer32
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They all look pretty good to me, I think I'm going to choose one of these as my first road bike. Will be using the C2W scheme.
Thinking of a Gran Fondo with either 105 or Veloce. Not sure on wheels yet.
Anyway it's going to be over the £1000 C2W limit. How flexible are Riddle about you adding your own money, if they are, how do they go about the taking the extra?0 -
davelakers wrote:rozzer32
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Disapointingly my Gran Fondo never arrived on Friday. After a phone call to them it turns out the headsets they had didn't fit the frame so they have had to order new ones from Italy. I'm now told bike will be built on Monday and should be with me Wednesday!
Starting to get concerned that the bike that I specified may be different when it arrives components etc. As I ordered on the website when 2010 components were still available.0 -
RichardSwt wrote:Anyway it's going to be over the £1000 C2W limit. How flexible are Riddle about you adding your own money, if they are, how do they go about the taking the extra?
They just bung the diff off your credit card!
As per Abrooks concerns, I may have to ring Ribble and check on mine. I don't want it contaminating with 2011 spec Centaur.......... I'd assume though that they have the stock of parts. Aside from anything else, the prices are different. Don't mind a free upgrade but I won't accept a free downgrade Faster than a tent.......0 -
Don't think they will put it on your credit card.Was in the shop last week when someone asked and they wanted to spend over 2 grand.They were told no as it could lead to C2W licence being withdrawn from them as they are clamping down on the practice.0
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janwal wrote:Don't think they will put it on your credit card.Was in the shop last week when someone asked and they wanted to spend over 2 grand.They were told no as it could lead to C2W licence being withdrawn from them as they are clamping down on the practice.
Bugger, I don't want to spend over 2K, but maybe a few hundred to get better wheels and a nicer groupset. Will have to see what they say.0 -
Rolf F:
That was the initial issue with my order! They have already told me that the Centaur 2010 Carbon chainset is no longer in stock so they are replacing this with the 2011 version. Is this classed as a downgrade then? I asumed I was getting a good deal there. Hopefully the bike will arrived with the rest of the components as I originally specified! I can't see that could changed anything else on my order without asking me! (fingers crossed)0 -
I was just having a look at the Ribble Winter bike. Is the frame geometry really that aggressive? I would want a more Sportive style frame geometry for a Winter bike. Any suggestions?
*Edit*
Had a bit more of a nosy on their web site and see that they sell 2 other metal framed bikes in addition to their Winter frame. Can anyone explain exactly what the differences are between the 7005SL Race and the 7005 Ultralite Race?
Either of those would appear to be far better than their Winter bike, the geometry is far more relaxed. The price is good value too.0 -
abrooks100 wrote:Rolf F:
That was the initial issue with my order! They have already told me that the Centaur 2010 Carbon chainset is no longer in stock so they are replacing this with the 2011 version. Is this classed as a downgrade then? I asumed I was getting a good deal there. Hopefully the bike will arrived with the rest of the components as I originally specified! I can't see that could changed anything else on my order without asking me! (fingers crossed)
I think the general opinion is that the new groupset is a downgrade. With Mirage and Xenon discontinued, Veloce and Centaur are now bottom of the range but last year, aside from not being 11 speed, weren't that different from the likes of Athena. The new Centaur only has single downshifts and 3 up and the skeleton brakes are gone. For me, one big reason to go 2010 Centaur is it is the same groupset as my other road bike. 2011 loses some of the compatibility.
Depends really on what matters to you. The 2011 Grand Fondo Centaur is about the same price as last years, spec for spec - the Veloce rather more expensive. Power Torque BB is supposed to be cheaper to maintain and replace but weighs more. Overall, Campagnolo say the groupsets weigh less than last year but then I don't believe the weights in the Campag catalogue anyway. Appearance has deteriorated quite a bit as well.
I just rang Ribble up about my order and they confirmed mine is definitely 2010 Centaur - and due to build today. I'll probably pick it up on Thursday if so. I hope I don't need to have an argument with them.Faster than a tent.......0 -
abrooks100 wrote:Disapointingly my Gran Fondo never arrived on Friday. After a phone call to them it turns out the headsets they had didn't fit the frame so they have had to order new ones from Italy. I'm now told bike will be built on Monday and should be with me Wednesday!
Starting to get concerned that the bike that I specified may be different when it arrives components etc. As I ordered on the website when 2010 components were still available.
Did your GF turn up then? After ringing to check final details, I turned up this afternoon to pick the bike up to discover 2011 levers and front mech and non continental brake orientation! And that after calling them on Monday. Everything else was 2010 Centaur thankfully. Even better, I spotted on one of the few remaining display bikes (most have gone to London for the show) - an old style Sportive that presumably is no longer worthy (!) - 2010 Centaur levers so I asked if I could have those instead. Which they sorted out while I went off to Southport to pick up some old wheels for my Raleigh Record Ace.
Otherwise the only real issue is that the Vittoria Rubinos have been replaced by (equally cheap) Prorace Nitro tyres. I'd have rather had the Rubinos but they won't be on it long anyway.
Won't be able to ride it for a few days but it looks nice enough. Noticeably heavier than the Look but I'd have been annoyed if it had been closer Faster than a tent.......0 -
According to parcelforce my bike should be with me this morning so I will keep you updated on arrival. I am starting to worry that I willbe in the same boat as yourself now and not receive the spec I ordered! Where would I stand on this if it does arrive with different components? What would you do? I agreed to them changing the chainset to 2011 carbon canteur but nothing else!
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I am starting to worry that I willbe in the same boat as yourself now and not receive the spec I ordered! Where would I stand on this if it does arrive with different components? What would you do? I agreed to them changing the chainset to 2011 carbon canteur but nothing else!
Fingers Crossed!
Pointless kicking off with them I would say.This is common. If the component(s) fitted are inferior then I would press them for a goodwill discount. Otherwise they will probably call your bluff so to speak and tell you to send the bike back.
Then they will keep it. For quite a long time...0 -
Just for reference regarding SRAM, on the Ribble site go to special edition bikes tab, click on this and it will take you to the different frame types and materials and then select the frame material you want, after this you get all the frame types with all three groupset offerings, SRAM / SHIMANO / CAMPAG etc slect which one you want and build your bike as you like.
No idea why it does not work directly through the bike builder tab ?
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Ive just been down to the Ribble Showroom to look at the new range and Im very impressed with the Stealth. It looks very very nice and its extremely light. I was contemplating the Sportive Blanco, which is a very nice looking bike, but I am settled on the Stealth.
Roll on end of November when I can order one.
Anybody want to buy my Specialised Roubaix frame?0 -
sturmey wrote:I am starting to worry that I willbe in the same boat as yourself now and not receive the spec I ordered! Where would I stand on this if it does arrive with different components? What would you do? I agreed to them changing the chainset to 2011 carbon canteur but nothing else!
Fingers Crossed!
Pointless kicking off with them I would say.This is common. If the component(s) fitted are inferior then I would press them for a goodwill discount. Otherwise they will probably call your bluff so to speak and tell you to send the bike back.
Then they will keep it. For quite a long time...
Tricky one really - I think the only potential come back is if the different components are cheaper than those originally specified. In the case of Campag Centaur 2011 that might be the case. But I'd still be very polite and grovelly about it since the component prices are already heavily discounted. In my case, there would have been genuine mismatches between components on my road bikes if they'd kept the 2010 so the inconvenience would have been greater than just the issue over the de-spec'd shifting mech. I wouldn't want to send the bike back (hence why I picked it up even though that was rather more expensive than the delivery fee).Henri Le Conte wrote:Just for reference regarding SRAM, on the Ribble site go to special edition bikes tab, click on this and it will take you to the different frame types and materials and then select the frame material you want, after this you get all the frame types with all three groupset offerings, SRAM / SHIMANO / CAMPAG etc slect which one you want and build your bike as you like.
No idea why it does not work directly through the bike builder tab ?
Oh and hello for my first post
The Special Edition bikes are cheaper like for like than the Bike Builder prices - but there is much less choice over parts.Faster than a tent.......0 -
Rolf F wrote:sturmey wrote:I am starting to worry that I willbe in the same boat as yourself now and not receive the spec I ordered! Where would I stand on this if it does arrive with different components? What would you do? I agreed to them changing the chainset to 2011 carbon canteur but nothing else!
Fingers Crossed!
Pointless kicking off with them I would say.This is common. If the component(s) fitted are inferior then I would press them for a goodwill discount. Otherwise they will probably call your bluff so to speak and tell you to send the bike back.
Then they will keep it. For quite a long time...
Tricky one really - I think the only potential come back is if the different components are cheaper than those originally specified. In the case of Campag Centaur 2011 that might be the case. But I'd still be very polite and grovelly about it since the component prices are already heavily discounted. In my case, there would have been genuine mismatches between components on my road bikes if they'd kept the 2010 so the inconvenience would have been greater than just the issue over the de-spec'd shifting mech. I wouldn't want to send the bike back (hence why I picked it up even though that was rather more expensive than the delivery fee).Henri Le Conte wrote:Just for reference regarding SRAM, on the Ribble site go to special edition bikes tab, click on this and it will take you to the different frame types and materials and then select the frame material you want, after this you get all the frame types with all three groupset offerings, SRAM / SHIMANO / CAMPAG etc slect which one you want and build your bike as you like.
No idea why it does not work directly through the bike builder tab ?
Oh and hello for my first post
The Special Edition bikes are cheaper like for like than the Bike Builder prices - but there is much less choice over parts.
On the stealth and a couple of others you would be right I was commenting on the fact that for some reason in the bikebuilder tab it wont let you choose SRAM only campag and shimano but if you go via the special editions tab you can choose all the bikes (special edition or not) with all three different groupset manufactures but as you say they do limit you on wheel choices and some of the higher end campag.0 -
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prawny wrote:The stealth looks a bit like a Koga Kimera can't image it is though too cheap.
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Is the sizing on the Special Edition Stealth page right?
Says the biggest frame size available is 54cm, seems a bit small.0 -
RichardSwt wrote:Is the sizing on the Special Edition Stealth page right?
Says the biggest frame size available is 54cm, seems a bit small.
Well the Stealth geometry chart in Ribble's bikebuilder is a fairly close math to Pedalforce's. It is a fairly radically sloped frame. I'm a bit put off when a frame has an effective top tube of 585mm is 485mm from the centre of the bottom bracket shell to the centre of the top tube. It's a bloody BMX!0 -
Cycloslalomeur wrote:RichardSwt wrote:Is the sizing on the Special Edition Stealth page right?
Says the biggest frame size available is 54cm, seems a bit small.
Well the Stealth geometry chart in Ribble's bikebuilder is a fairly close math to Pedalforce's. It is a fairly radically sloped frame. I'm a bit put off when a frame has an effective top tube of 585mm is 485mm from the centre of the bottom bracket shell to the centre of the top tube. It's a bloody BMX!
Cheers, no sure that's what I want either.Think I'll go for the New Sportive Racing, with SRAM Rival.0 -
I very nearly opted for the Nero but the Deda website where they list the frames used by Ribble stated that the Nero is designed for a relaxed ride specifically for women, which put me off.
Not that there's anything wrong with relaxed women...But not what I wanted in the back of my mind when forking out a thousand quid.0 -
Cycloslalomeur wrote:RichardSwt wrote:Is the sizing on the Special Edition Stealth page right?
Says the biggest frame size available is 54cm, seems a bit small.
Well the Stealth geometry chart in Ribble's bikebuilder is a fairly close math to Pedalforce's. It is a fairly radically sloped frame. I'm a bit put off when a frame has an effective top tube of 585mm is 485mm from the centre of the bottom bracket shell to the centre of the top tube. It's a bloody BMX!
I have just measured my Roubaix and the centre BB to top of seat tube is 525mm and the top tube length is 565mm. Almost identical to the Stealth. All the angles seem there or thereabouts as well. There is a difference of 27mm in the length of the head tube but there is not much difference elsewhere. Am I missing something?0 -
Zachariah wrote:I very nearly opted for the Nero but the Deda website where they list the frames used by Ribble stated that the Nero is designed for a relaxed ride specifically for women, which put me off.
Not that there's anything wrong with relaxed women...But not what I wanted in the back of my mind when forking out a thousand quid.
No offense matey, but I think you interpreted that a bit wrong. I read it as they've made the bike more comfortable whilst also making the geometry more suitable to women. Though not necessarily a girly comfy bike.
I also considered a Nero RC, but decided it might be a bit too racey for me, as a first road bike. -Triathlon Plus Gold Award
Triathlon Plus magazine have tested one of our Special Edition Ribble Nero RC Dura Ace 7900 bikes. Compared against a Planet X, Raleigh and Orbea the Ribble received the best of test Gold Award. "Cue rock solid power transfer underfoot, snap fast shifts and a dramatic drop in weight compared to the...
...In fact, the overall sharpness, enthusiasm and responsiveness of the Nero is what makes it such a compelling ride overall...
...Every time we rode them head to head, though, whoever was on the Ribble had the upper hand as soon as things turned competitive. In fact, its combination of sharp responsiveness, accuracy and addictive appetite to ride further and faster every time would match many price-no-object superbikes."
Though if anyone can tell me it is a bit girly and comfy, I may reconsider.0 -
I appreciate the Nero is in all probability an excellent frame for a wide range of riders. It certainly looks the business as done up on the Ribble site. It's just a personal thing - when the manufacturers say "the frame has been revised to give an even more comfortable and relaxed sitting position in the sadle, especially for women," I couldn't then imagine it being the speedy racer I was after, and the Scuro was out of my price range.0
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Do Ribble just make frames for dwarfs?
Seems if you're looking for a longer top tube than 590 you are friar tucked.
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davelakers wrote:Cycloslalomeur wrote:RichardSwt wrote:Is the sizing on the Special Edition Stealth page right?
Says the biggest frame size available is 54cm, seems a bit small.
Well the Stealth geometry chart in Ribble's bikebuilder is a fairly close math to Pedalforce's. It is a fairly radically sloped frame. I'm a bit put off when a frame has an effective top tube of 585mm is 485mm from the centre of the bottom bracket shell to the centre of the top tube. It's a bloody BMX!
I have just measured my Roubaix and the centre BB to top of seat tube is 525mm and the top tube length is 565mm. Almost identical to the Stealth. All the angles seem there or thereabouts as well. There is a difference of 27mm in the length of the head tube but there is not much difference elsewhere. Am I missing something?
You're not missing anything. The Roubaix in size 56 and the Stealth 522 are indeed a close match. I didn't claim that the Stealth was the only radically sloped frame out there. It's just that I find them aesthetically unappealling. Not the best criterion to pick a frame I know but there it is. To compare: my Bianchi ML3 has an effective top tube of 53cm give or take and a seat tube C-C measurement of 48cm. If I was to buy a Stealth I'd need size 480 with a seat tube C-C length of 43cm.0 -
derosa wrote:Do Ribble just make frames for dwarfs?
Seems if you're looking for a longer top tube than 590 you are friar tucked.
Pedalforce do have another RS3 size but for some reason Ribble aren't listing it: http://pedalforce.com/online/product_in ... s_id=184790 -
Cycloslalomeur wrote:derosa wrote:Do Ribble just make frames for dwarfs?
Seems if you're looking for a longer top tube than 590 you are friar tucked.
Pedalforce do have another RS3 size but for some reason Ribble aren't listing it: http://pedalforce.com/online/product_in ... s_id=18479
Thanks bud - looks like what I need.
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