Importing a bike into the UK from the US

jnr_seahorse
jnr_seahorse Posts: 50
edited September 2010 in MTB buying advice
Anybody in the UK bought a bike / frame from the USA? Advice or tips?

I'm considering buying a frame from a shop in the USA.

Cost with the shipping will be around £2000.

How much import duty are the lovely people at customs going to slap on it? :(

Comments

  • Andy!
    Andy! Posts: 433
    you are going to get raped.

    import duty - check the HMRC site
    VAT on anything above £18
    + the £8 Royal fecking Mail charge (even if you only need to pay £1 VAT - you can't tell I am bitter!)
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  • If you went to the States and took a bike with you for your own personal use and something terrible happened to the frame you can buy a frame and use it. The bike you return with would be used and I don't think subject to import duty.


    If the trip was purely to buy the item and return with a new frame tax would be due.
  • cavegiant
    cavegiant Posts: 1,546
    I do this as a norm.

    USA bike shops also tend to negotiate a lot, even on new stuff, cut a deal.

    The import duty is not cheap though, not at all.

    17.5% + 15% + £18.

    I have had no problems at all with getting warranty or support at all.
    Why would I care about 150g of bike weight, I just ate 400g of cookies while reading this?
  • [quoteIf you went to the States and took a bike with you for your own personal use and something terrible happened to the frame you can buy a frame and use it. The bike you return with would be used and I don't think subject to import duty.
    [/quote]


    Not true.

    You would be liable for duty on the frame when it comes into the UK (as import duty has not been paid yet) - duty MAY be based on the purchase price or the s/h value (you would need to check with HMRC for the latest rules)
  • Take a bike bag with a scrapyard bike in it to the US.

    Buy a new bike in the states.

    Place new bike in bike bag and throw scrapper in a skip.

    Return to UK after dirtying new bike with mud.

    Happy days.
  • [quoteIf you went to the States and took a bike with you for your own personal use and something terrible happened to the frame you can buy a frame and use it. The bike you return with would be used and I don't think subject to import duty.
    [/quote]


    Not true.

    You would be liable for duty on the frame when it comes into the UK (as import duty has not been paid yet) - duty MAY be based on the purchase price or the s/h value (you would need to check with HMRC for the latest rules)
  • The only way you wouldn't pay any customs duty etc is if you have owned the item for more than 6 months...You can get around the royal mail £8 thing by arranging your own courrier and sorting the import out yourself...If you give the national advice line they should be able to help you a little more..0845 010 9000. I work for customs at Salford Quays so don't be trying to get away with anything :roll: :wink:
  • So let me get this straight......

    17.5% VAT (Soon to be 20%)
    Plus
    15% Import duty
    Plus
    £8-18 Royal Mail Charge.

    Ouch!
  • Looks like the frame would end up costs about 350 extra or so to just get it into the country. What a load of quack. Why if it's purchased for personal use and not to be sold on do you still have to pay so much for it?
  • schweiz
    schweiz Posts: 1,644
    So let me get this straight......

    17.5% VAT (Soon to be 20%)
    Plus
    15% Import duty
    Plus
    £8-18 Royal Mail Charge.

    Ouch!

    When stuff arrives from the UK to me, I'm pretty sure the order of the charges is the other way round so it'll be:

    Price of Bike and Shipping = 2000
    Plus Duty 2000*1.15 = 2300
    Plus VAT 2300*1.175 = 2702
    Plus Courier/Royal Mail handling fee.

    I don't know if the duty is charged on the value of the bike and the shipping or just the value of the bike so it may be less. The cost of the shipping is liable to VAT though.
  • Andy!
    Andy! Posts: 433
    they charge VAT on shipping if you opt for a "non-standard" delivery service. Which you would for a bike. You aren't exactly going to trust USPS and Royal Fail with it.
  • neninja
    neninja Posts: 424
    If you were to ship the bike unassembled as "component parts" it only attracts 4.7% duty instead of 14% :wink:


    Likewise importing frames only attracts 4.7% - it's only complete bikes that get whacked for 14%
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    schweiz wrote:
    other way round so it'll be:
    Price of Bike and Shipping = 2000
    Plus Duty 2000*1.15 = 2300
    Plus VAT 2300*1.175 = 2702
    Plus Courier/Royal Mail handling fee.
    LOL
    £Xx1.175x1.15=£Xx1.15x1.175 so you can calculate in any order you like, the result is the same, but yes, strictly its import duty first then VAT.

    Simon
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • schweiz
    schweiz Posts: 1,644
    schweiz wrote:
    other way round so it'll be:
    Price of Bike and Shipping = 2000
    Plus Duty 2000*1.15 = 2300
    Plus VAT 2300*1.175 = 2702
    Plus Courier/Royal Mail handling fee.
    LOL
    £Xx1.175x1.15=£Xx1.15x1.175 so you can calculate in any order you like, the result is the same, but yes, strictly its import duty first then VAT.

    Simon

    :oops:

    fail on my part!! I was trying to make the point that there is VAT to pay on the duty i.e. you don't take 15% of 2000 and 17.5% of 2000 which would make a total price of 2650
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    OK got you, agreed on that!

    Simon
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.