Road Shoes - any advice would be great

Hi,
I am relatively new to road cycling, got hooked and now cant get enough
The problem I have at the moment is my shoes. It seems like different shops give different advice and I now I am no longer sure what is right.
I bought a pair of Specialzed Sport Road shoes for about £60, a size up from my usual size, but after an hour of riding my outer toes and balls of my feet were numb, also could feel my big toe pressing against the front of the shoe. I tried loosening the straps but it made no difference.
I thought perhaps it was the shoes so I went to another shop and they said you need a thumbnails distance spare in front of your toe, so I changed the shoes and went for a 46 in some Shimano R081s. I am usually a 43, but a thumbnail distance at the front = 46. I have used these a couple times now and although my toe isnt touching the front, my feet continue to go numb. Also they feel a bit sloppy when climbing hills. Now the shop suggests insoles costing about £30
Should I go for insoles or a different brand closer fitting shoe, ie one around my actual size in a different make? Or is it correct that I should go massively bigger like I have? Any ideas about the numbness? Any help would be great and save me a fortune in new shoes :shock: Do you get what you pay for with shoes ie as I am buying at the bottom end of the market, so is that why I am getting problems?
Thanks
I am relatively new to road cycling, got hooked and now cant get enough

I bought a pair of Specialzed Sport Road shoes for about £60, a size up from my usual size, but after an hour of riding my outer toes and balls of my feet were numb, also could feel my big toe pressing against the front of the shoe. I tried loosening the straps but it made no difference.
I thought perhaps it was the shoes so I went to another shop and they said you need a thumbnails distance spare in front of your toe, so I changed the shoes and went for a 46 in some Shimano R081s. I am usually a 43, but a thumbnail distance at the front = 46. I have used these a couple times now and although my toe isnt touching the front, my feet continue to go numb. Also they feel a bit sloppy when climbing hills. Now the shop suggests insoles costing about £30
Should I go for insoles or a different brand closer fitting shoe, ie one around my actual size in a different make? Or is it correct that I should go massively bigger like I have? Any ideas about the numbness? Any help would be great and save me a fortune in new shoes :shock: Do you get what you pay for with shoes ie as I am buying at the bottom end of the market, so is that why I am getting problems?
Thanks
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How many rides have you done with them? I suspect it's mostly a case of getting used to something that's just a bit different.
2004 Marin Muirwoods Hybrid
1) If the pain and numbness aren't there fro the start then it may well not be to do with the uppers. It could be the footbed and how that is damaging/rubbing the nerves on the sole of the foot. In my case I switched to a Specialized insole as they were recommended to me by individuals and other outlets as being the best for nerve problems.
The fact you say that loosening the strap makes no difference implies IMHO that you may have a similar issue.
2) Have a look at the angle of your cleats. It could be that you are naturally ending up with your toes in a slightly different dirrection to your shoes and thus are pushing with your big toes to the side of your shoe.
I had a bike fit (£120 at a Specialized concept store) and it was the best money I have spent on my bike.
3) Have a look at your cleat position. THere are numerous threads on here about moving them back and forward relative to the bones in your feet to help with comfort and nerve damage.
1) If the pain and numbness aren't there fro the start then it may well not be to do with the uppers. It could be the footbed and how that is damaging/rubbing the nerves on the sole of the foot. In my case I switched to a Specialized insole as they were recommended to me by individuals and other outlets as being the best for nerve problems.
The fact you say that loosening the strap makes no difference implies IMHO that you may have a similar issue.
2) Have a look at the angle of your cleats. It could be that you are naturally ending up with your toes in a slightly different dirrection to your shoes and thus are pushing with your big toes to the side of your shoe.
I had a bike fit (£120 at a Specialized concept store) and it was the best money I have spent on my bike.
3) Have a look at your cleat position. THere are numerous threads on here about moving them back and forward relative to the bones in your feet to help with comfort and nerve damage.
Less than £60.00 as well so price means diddly squat.
I am no expert but if the shop is suggesting insoles it looks as if the shoes do not fit you and why should you pay a further £30.00 to make them fit.
Get your money back and get yourself a decent pair that fit and do the job.
No amount of inner soles are going to help now!
I do occasionally suffer from a bit of crampness in the arch of my foot if I have my shoes too tight...but loosening them up usually makes the cramping ease.
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Really!!!, I would not say I have wide feet, I certainly do not buy wide fitting shoes and the Northwaves fit me spot on, but as you say you need to try them on first.
2004 Marin Muirwoods Hybrid