I WANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JesseD
JesseD Posts: 1,961
edited September 2010 in Road buying advice
Holy shi7

http://www.dedacciaistrada.com/en/superscuro.htm

The super scuro/

I want so bad
Obsessed is a word used by the lazy to describe the dedicated!

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  • Capital letters and multiple exclamation marks are so passe.
  • JesseD
    JesseD Posts: 1,961
    Capital letters and multiple exclamation marks are so passe.

    Thanks for your input. :roll: :wink:

    I believed the quality on the frame and my excitement about how nice it is justified it.
    Obsessed is a word used by the lazy to describe the dedicated!
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Unfortunately I bet it will will soon be available in this country with Ribble decals on rather than the Deda ones (which look quite cool). Not that I have anything against Ribble, but, well, just sayin'.
  • zedders
    zedders Posts: 509
    NapoleonD wrote:
    Unfortunately I bet it will will soon be available in this country with Ribble decals on rather than the Deda ones (which look quite cool). Not that I have anything against Ribble, but, well, just sayin'.

    My mate has the current ribble version in black/blue and white. Very nice! (Just very nice!, not !!!) :)
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  • giant_man
    giant_man Posts: 6,878
    NapoleonD wrote:
    Unfortunately I bet it will will soon be available in this country with Ribble decals on rather than the Deda ones (which look quite cool). Not that I have anything against Ribble, but, well, just sayin'.
    Absolutely right! Doesn't have quite the same allure ...
  • neeb
    neeb Posts: 4,467
    Damn, that's my 2010 scuro rs "obsolete" already...

    Looks lovely though. Despite the extra hype, the construction and materials look to be the same as the current model (IM600, "anti-wrinkle", "nanotechnology" etc...)

    Geometry has been tweaked - headtube on the medium size is now 13mm shorter, (not a bad thing if it comes with the same tall headset cap as standard) and chain stays and thus wheelbase 3mm longer. Other than that, geometry is identical.

    The internal cable routing is new.

    I guess the nerissimo is the replacement for the nero? I notice that the Scuro RS (unlike the Nero) is still on the new website. Does this mean that the super scuro is not a replacement for the RS and that deda will be marketing both together?
  • Who gives a monkey's about the decals, providing it's an excellent frame to ride?

    Snobbery-tastic at its best.
    "A gentleman who goes by the name Upgrayedd. Which he spells thusly, with two D's, as he says, "for a double dose of this pimping."
  • zedders wrote:
    NapoleonD wrote:
    Unfortunately I bet it will will soon be available in this country with Ribble decals on rather than the Deda ones (which look quite cool). Not that I have anything against Ribble, but, well, just sayin'.

    My mate has the current ribble version in black/blue and white. Very nice! (Just very nice!, not !!!) :)

    What do you mean by "Just very nice!, not!!!" ?
    "A gentleman who goes by the name Upgrayedd. Which he spells thusly, with two D's, as he says, "for a double dose of this pimping."
  • JesseD
    JesseD Posts: 1,961
    UPGRAYEDD wrote:
    Who gives a monkey's about the decals, providing it's an excellent frame to ride?

    Snobbery-tastic at its best.

    Aye that's me :wink:
    Obsessed is a word used by the lazy to describe the dedicated!
  • JesseD
    JesseD Posts: 1,961
    UPGRAYEDD wrote:
    Who gives a monkey's about the decals, providing it's an excellent frame to ride?

    Snobbery-tastic at its best.

    Aye that's me :wink:
    Obsessed is a word used by the lazy to describe the dedicated!
  • At least you're honest about it chap!
    "A gentleman who goes by the name Upgrayedd. Which he spells thusly, with two D's, as he says, "for a double dose of this pimping."
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    JesseD wrote:
    UPGRAYEDD wrote:
    Who gives a monkey's about the decals, providing it's an excellent frame to ride?

    Snobbery-tastic at its best.

    Aye that's me :wink:

    And me. I care about what it looks like and I'd prefer the more exotic sounding and looking Deda colourway to a Ribble one.

    It's like having a Ferrari, painting it beige and putting a Vauxhall badge on it.
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    NapoleonD wrote:
    It's like having a Ferrari, painting it beige and putting a Vauxhall badge on it.

    At least that is somehow better than those saddos who buy Vauxhall VX220s and take the badges off......

    And at least the Ribble badging would avoid any pretence that the frame has actually been anywhere near southern Europe :lol:
    Faster than a tent.......
  • 10 years' ago, I would have probably agreed with you NapoleonD et al. However, I now care considerably less about brand names, and more about substance.

    It's all about personal choice, I guess, so you can't be knocked for your stance. But then, neither can those of us who prefer substance over style.

    EDIT

    Just re-read the above and it is clear I am no longer down with the kidz.
    "A gentleman who goes by the name Upgrayedd. Which he spells thusly, with two D's, as he says, "for a double dose of this pimping."
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    UPGRAYEDD wrote:
    10 years' ago, I would have probably agreed with you NapoleonD et al. However, I now care considerably less about brand names, and more about substance.

    It's all about personal choice, I guess, so you can't be knocked for your stance. But then, neither can those of us who prefer substance over style.

    EDIT

    Just re-read the above and it is clear I am no longer down with the kidz.

    I care about both. I want, when I am spending a lot of money on something, for it to look as good as possible as well as be very good quality, but never at the compromise of said quality...
  • JesseD
    JesseD Posts: 1,961
    Agreed, + I don't like the Ribble graphics and colours (personal choice).

    I had considered buying the Scuro RS, then getting it resprayed by Argos in Bristol to have some thing totally unique, but was then given a Dale six13 frame and forks in my size, so I bought carbon wheels and some other bits instead :D
    Obsessed is a word used by the lazy to describe the dedicated!
  • neeb
    neeb Posts: 4,467
    However, I now care considerably less about brand names, and more about substance.
    Important distinction to be made here between brand name snobbery and aesthetic preferences. I wouldn't have minded having a Ribble branded frame, but I just didn't like the look of Ribble's colour scheme for the Scuro RS (I don't do blue, basically). If they'd done the Scuro in the same scheme as the Sportive Racing I'd have taken it. In the end I paid a little extra to get mine from Alpina Giro in Paris - in red & white.

    Anyway, I reckon that liking the way your bike looks helps you cultivate a positive psychological attitude and makes you go faster... :)

    No, seriously.
  • It doesn't look very beeefy in the bottom bracket area does it?
  • neeb
    neeb Posts: 4,467
    It doesn't look very beeefy in the bottom bracket area does it?
    Even assuming that BB stiffness is all it's cracked up to be, I suspect that this recent trend in some brands of having a big square bit of carbon around the BB is just to give the visual impression of stiffness as much as anything else. I've yet to have anyone explain to me how having a massive BB area makes the BB significantly less likely to move, any more than having a massive pedal spindle would make the crank less likely to flex.... I suspect BB stiffness has got more to do with materials and tube profiles over the whole frame. Colnago C59 doesn't have a big BB either...
  • neeb wrote:
    However, I now care considerably less about brand names, and more about substance.
    Important distinction to be made here between brand name snobbery and aesthetic preferences. I wouldn't have minded having a Ribble branded frame, but I just didn't like the look of Ribble's colour scheme for the Scuro RS (I don't do blue, basically). If they'd done the Scuro in the same scheme as the Sportive Racing I'd have taken it. In the end I paid a little extra to get mine from Alpina Giro in Paris - in red & white.

    Anyway, I reckon that liking the way your bike looks helps you cultivate a positive psychological attitude and makes you go faster... :)

    No, seriously.

    Seriously, no.
    "A gentleman who goes by the name Upgrayedd. Which he spells thusly, with two D's, as he says, "for a double dose of this pimping."
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    New bike syndrome does exist. It is similar to nice bike syndrome.
    People tend to be faster on newer bikes, or when the 'good bike' comes out after the winter. Purely psychological but it happens.
  • neeb
    neeb Posts: 4,467
    We all know that psychology is very important in cycling - it's as much the mind as it is the body driving you forwards and making you put in that extra effort. Techniques such as positive visualization are taken seriously these days and widely practiced. It would be weird if liking your bike didn't contribute to that. Of course this could work differently with different people - Upgrayed, maybe having a bike that you think is ugly but functional and scoffing internally at ponces on pretty bikes makes you go faster - whatever pushes the buttons...