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Your ultimate commuting machine

Wrath RobWrath Rob Posts: 2,918
edited September 2010 in Commuting chat
I've been thinking for a while what my ultimate bike for commuting all year round would be. So far I've got:

Frame: Steel or titanium road frame with mounting holes for mudguards and maybe a rack
Forks: Anything for a road frame that is disc brake compatible
Brakes: Front disk brake (140mm?)
Wheels: Bomb proof wheels (my Mavic Aksiums have lived up to this so far)
Gears: 4 speed, no front deraileur. Why do you need more in London?
Other: Drop handlebars, Time pedals, Charge saddle, frame mounted pump

So, what's yours, or have you seen "my" bike somewhere?
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  • davisdavis Posts: 2,566
    It's got to be winter-capable for me too, which means clearance for bigger tyres. Definitely got to have rack and guard mounts, and a replaceable headset.

    It might be the Genesis CdF for me, but I'm not sure I even need the gears after tackling "the hill" in ~70 GI...

    Fairly similar to yours, really.
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  • Rich158Rich158 Posts: 2,348
    I've got mine, Condor Acciaio :). Steel frame, solid components with a good balance of weight/durability, Mavic Ksyrium Elites, bombproof and sealed cartridge bearings to keep the censored out. They've never needed any attention in 2 years, and conti gp4000s all year round for me. I never go larger than 23's whatever the weather. This little beaut does it all, commutes, races, and the odd sportive :). She's truly the queen of bikes.
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  • asprillaasprilla Posts: 8,440
    edited August 2010
    I'd need something for good weather and something for bad.

    Good weather: Cervelo California with Di2 and appropriate kit.

    Bad weather: Civia Bryant Alfine; 35mm tyre clearance, alfine 8 speed, gates carbon drive, disc brakes, full guards, front and rear racks, drops. If only it was titanium instead of steel....
    Mud - Genesis Vapour CCX
    Race - Fuji Norcom Straight
    Sun - Cervelo R3
    Winter / Commute - Dolan ADX
  • cjcpcjcp Posts: 13,345
    Enough clearance for snow tyres, too? (Would need to in my case if I'm to go through the Park.) Have you seen Roastie's Ti bike?
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  • ZephrZephr Posts: 60
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  • cjcp wrote:
    Enough clearance for snow tyres, too? (Would need to in my case if I'm to go through the Park.) Have you seen Roastie's Ti bike?

    good clearances do help, "Big Green" takes 38mm with ease plus mudguards and is quite good in snow and ice.

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    for my ideal commuter? I think i'd be after simple cable disc brakes, and good clearances for tires + guards.

    solid frame and probably drops if only so one could hide a bit more from the wind.
  • ndrundru Posts: 382
    Bakfiets Cargobike Long because:
    1)bulletproof tyres (schwalbe maratons)
    2)full mudguards, rack, hub dynamo powered lights
    3) hub gears(good for when it rains and in the winter)
    4) fully enclosed chain (so you don't get your trousers dirty when on your way to the office)
    5) big cargo compartment to pick up your kids when coming back from work
    6) sit up an beg - comfortable riding position
    7) very safe - people usually SEE you and if they try to door you... well they better set some money aside for new door
    8) built in lock plus 100lbs of weight plus distinctive appearance make this bike not very attractive to thieves.

    EDIT - oh and it will last at least 30 years
  • R_T_AR_T_A Posts: 488
    riding a velociraptor, on a hoverboard.

    Hmmm - combining future technology with the retro-styling of a killing machine.

    Why has no one thought of this before?
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  • alan_shermanalan_sherman Posts: 1,153
    Something that requires the minimum of maintenance and is unlikely to get nicked. Sounds like hub gears, drive belt instead of chain, hub dynamo, full guards, rack. Ti would be good for longevity but probably too expensive for a commuter so either steel or aluminium. And flat bars.
  • Something that requires the minimum of maintenance and is unlikely to get nicked. Sounds like hub gears, drive belt instead of chain, hub dynamo, full guards, rack. Ti would be good for longevity but probably too expensive for a commuter so either steel or aluminium. And flat bars.

    +1 but with drops.
  • tiny_penstiny_pens Posts: 293
    asprilla wrote:
    Bad weather: Civia Bryant Alfine; 35mm tyre clearance, alfine 8 speed, gates carbon drive, disc brakes, full guards, front and rear racks, drops. If only it was titanium instead of steel....

    +1

    I just wish I could find a UK supplier
  • asprillaasprilla Posts: 8,440
    Something that requires the minimum of maintenance and is unlikely to get nicked. Sounds like hub gears, drive belt instead of chain, hub dynamo, full guards, rack. Ti would be good for longevity but probably too expensive for a commuter so either steel or aluminium. And flat bars.

    +1 but with drops.

    I give you the Civia Bryant Alfine

    http://www.civiacycles.com/bikes/bryant/

    http://www.ecovelo.info/2010/01/03/shor ... ia-bryant/

    No euro distributor or retailers so I'm just waiting for one of their US retailers to get stock adn then one will be winging it's way across the pond,
    Mud - Genesis Vapour CCX
    Race - Fuji Norcom Straight
    Sun - Cervelo R3
    Winter / Commute - Dolan ADX
  • tiny_pens wrote:

    +1
    I just wish I could find a UK supplier

    You know what, I've never heard of these before. If there was a UK supplier I think I would buy one straight away. Is there no belt drive Alfine bike with drops available in the UK?
  • itboffinitboffin Posts: 19,745
    Boris bike

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  • MonkeyMonsterMonkeyMonster Posts: 4,628
    edited August 2010
    riding a velociraptor, on a hoverboard.

    +1

    or a T-Rex in a F15
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  • asprillaasprilla Posts: 8,440
    tiny_pens wrote:

    +1
    I just wish I could find a UK supplier

    You know what, I've never heard of these before. If there was a UK supplier I think I would buy one straight away. Is there no belt drive Alfine bike with drops available in the UK?

    Not that I've been able to find. There are quite a few in the US and Canada but even those who distribute to europe don't bring these models over. Norko do one as wall, but only for the North american market.

    Sucks to be us.
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    Race - Fuji Norcom Straight
    Sun - Cervelo R3
    Winter / Commute - Dolan ADX
  • rjsterryrjsterry Posts: 18,701
    There's a niche there for an enterprising person.
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  • amneziaamnezia Posts: 590
    riding a velociraptor, on a hoverboard.

    +1 but with drops
  • DonDaddyDDonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
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  • wgwarburtonwgwarburton Posts: 1,863
    Something that requires the minimum of maintenance and is unlikely to get nicked. Sounds like hub gears, drive belt instead of chain, hub dynamo, full guards, rack. Ti would be good for longevity but probably too expensive for a commuter so either steel or aluminium. And flat bars.

    I'm with you on the concept, but not the execution.

    Belt drive, fixed gear, drops, mudguards. Fittings for rack, if needed (havn't yet).

    I'd pass on the dynamo, I think, unless it were on a "winter wheel". I'd prefer not to have it on the bike year round. Agree on the Ti=nice, Steel=realistic! I'd not choose Al.

    Oh, and drops (or possibly bullhorns)... definitely not flats for me: too many hours spent pushing into strong south-westerlies, or sprinting for a train.

    Cheers,
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  • DonDaddyDDonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    What wroung with alu'?
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  • vorsprungvorsprung Posts: 1,953
    tiny_pens wrote:

    +1
    I just wish I could find a UK supplier

    You know what, I've never heard of these before. If there was a UK supplier I think I would buy one straight away. Is there no belt drive Alfine bike with drops available in the UK?

    Cotic do a flat bar Alfine or a SS with drops
    I bought a SS and fitted my own Alfine
    A 1/8" chain lasts for 6 months commuting and is cheap n easy to replace
  • bigmatbigmat Posts: 5,111
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    What wroung with alu'?

    Its not "trendy" at the moment. A bit mass-produced and derivative. There'll be an aluminium resurgence in a few years, when you'll be told that they are amazingly stiff and light and economical, and everyone will slag off carbon. People will forget the horrible BSO's and bone-shaker stiff cheapo frames and proclaim it as a wonder material that all bikes should still be made from. Possibly.
  • cavegiantcavegiant Posts: 1,546
    I already own my ultimate commuter bike.

    Niner WFO, Dorado Fork, KH Freeride Unicylce rims and suspension tuned to pedal like a race bike. Big Apple Tyres.

    I take most racers off the line, but can hop curbs at 30mph, drop flights of stairs, and most importantly when mr white van pulls out in front of me I have Formula The One brakes on 203mm disks connected to 2.4" tyres. I can drop speed an outmanoeuvre any bike out there in commuter land.

    Sure my bike is twice as heavy, but I am doing this for fitness and when Mr White Van comes, I am very glad to have all the gadgets to keep me safe.
    Why would I care about 150g of bike weight, I just ate 400g of cookies while reading this?
  • prawnyprawny Posts: 5,414
    Probably Genesis Day one Alfine.

    Drop bars, discs, steel frame, guard and rack mountings, and room for cross tyres.

    If I could afford a bike just for commuting it would probably be this, with a hub dynamo.

    I do worry though that all the things that make a good commuter, slow me down.

    So I suppose my ideal bike for my commute would be something from the pro tour with hard as nails wheels. Ridley Noah?
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  • DonDaddyDDonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    MatHammond wrote:
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    What wroung with alu'?

    Its not "trendy" at the moment. A bit mass-produced and derivative. There'll be an aluminium resurgence in a few years, when you'll be told that they are amazingly stiff and light and economical, and everyone will slag off carbon. People will forget the horrible BSO's and bone-shaker stiff cheapo frames and proclaim it as a wonder material that all bikes should still be made from. Possibly.

    I agree,

    However I'm a child of the alu generation, I think. I'm 28 and had 2 steel bikes but really remembering the emergence of alu even the cheapo stuff being lighter than cheapo steel.

    I want Titanium because I've always loved the stuff, even before my Uni-jeweller days.
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  • tiny_penstiny_pens Posts: 293
    vorsprung wrote:
    Cotic do a flat bar Alfine or a SS with drops
    I bought a SS and fitted my own Alfine
    A 1/8" chain lasts for 6 months commuting and is cheap n easy to replace

    Nice but for some reason I just want a belt. Its for the same reason that I buy into the whole fixed / single speed side of things. For me with gears, most of my maintenance is on the chain keeping it lubricated and washing the sand off. Forget the gears i just want rid of the chain. :)

    I wonder if I ask nicely whether they might do a belt version for me?
  • Wrath RobWrath Rob Posts: 2,918
    Prawny, that Genesis looks pretty good and ticks my boxes

    http://www.roadcyclinguk.com/gear-news/ ... /5370.html
    Price for this steel-framed beast is slated as £999, making it CycleScheme affordable and an attractive, durable prospect for the daily commute. It is expected to be on sale by autumn 2010.

    Read more: http://www.roadcyclinguk.com/gear-news/ ... z0xWTqJZoF

    Looks like I'll have to hold out until next years Cycle2Work for that one that.

    Any other contenders, part from dinosaurs on Back 2 the Future 2 technology
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  • prawnyprawny Posts: 5,414
    Wrath Rob wrote:
    Prawny, that Genesis looks pretty good and ticks my boxes

    http://www.roadcyclinguk.com/gear-news/ ... /5370.html
    Price for this steel-framed beast is slated as £999, making it CycleScheme affordable and an attractive, durable prospect for the daily commute. It is expected to be on sale by autumn 2010.

    Read more: http://www.roadcyclinguk.com/gear-news/ ... z0xWTqJZoF

    Looks like I'll have to hold out until next years Cycle2Work for that one that.

    Any other contenders, part from dinosaurs on Back 2 the Future 2 technology

    Might be worth speaking to genesis, see if you can register interest or something, the equilibriums sold out sharpish this year and I'm not sure they'll have enough of them Day ones to go round.
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