Caad 9 vs Caad 10

orangepip
orangepip Posts: 219
edited August 2010 in Road buying advice
I've got the option of either taking one of the very last Caad 9's with Ulltegra or a Caad 10 for the same price.

What would you do?

The Caad 10 is an unknown quantity at the moment so do I take the risk and wait for one of those or buy the very excellent Caad 9?

It's a cycle to work purchase.

Comments

  • Lagavulin
    Lagavulin Posts: 1,688
    Will the CAAD 10 be coming with the Premium fork?
  • orangepip
    orangepip Posts: 219
    Also if anyones got ny idea of the cost of the new bikes that info would be gratefully appreciated
  • orangepip
    orangepip Posts: 219
    anyone?
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    US Pricing here.

    http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/c ... perx-26839

    I spoke with Cannondale distributors the other day, they reckon they'll be out around Oct but no confirmed prices...
  • I'd go with CAAD9. It's a well known bike, and has quite a few followers. The CAAD10 however is an unknown - in changing the frame materials (or whatever else they've done), they could change the qualities that many people list as making the CAAD9 such a good frame. Plus the CAAD9 is available now ;).
  • orangepip
    orangepip Posts: 219
    I guess my concern is that the current trend for bike prices seem to be continuing. Speaking in one of my LBS this weekend the trend for Specialized bike prices seems to be continuing to rise for no comparitive upgrade in spec.

    If cannondale were to do the same then I would probably be better off with the CAAD 9
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    If you can find one in stock!!

    I think Tiagra will still be 999 for the 10...
  • brit66
    brit66 Posts: 350
    Westbrook cycles have the liqugas colour model in 54, 56 and 58 still.
    http://www.westbrookcycles.co.uk/bikes-5/road-bikes-18/cannondale-caad-tiagra-compact-road-bike-21016.htm

    I've got the CAAD9 but doubt you could go far wrong by going for the '10'. Could depend on the new colour schemes for a lot of people.
  • Jimbo.
    Jimbo. Posts: 124
    CAAD9, purely because "Handmade in the USA" emblazoned on the seatstay and top tube is so much classier than a "Mass produced in Taiwan on the cheap" sticker on the bottom bracket ;)
  • shefbiker
    shefbiker Posts: 255
    see this web report...
    http://www.roadcyclinguk.com/gear-news/cannondale-caad-10-unveiled-update/5417.html
    i have the same prices quoted from the distributor.
    there's no tiagra version by the way - 105 is the lowest...
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    Jimbo. wrote:
    CAAD9, purely because "Handmade in the USA" emblazoned on the seatstay and top tube is so much classier than a "Mass produced in Taiwan on the cheap" sticker on the bottom bracket ;)

    Funnily enough, I suspect quality will go up...
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    105 version will be 1299
  • Jimbo.
    Jimbo. Posts: 124
    NapoleonD wrote:
    Jimbo. wrote:
    CAAD9, purely because "Handmade in the USA" emblazoned on the seatstay and top tube is so much classier than a "Mass produced in Taiwan on the cheap" sticker on the bottom bracket ;)

    Funnily enough, I suspect quality will go up...

    Maybe. Maybe not. However, comparing the finish on my '9 with that of the '10 pictured in the link.
    It also irks me that this frame is made, as said, on the cheap. Why else would they punt production out to the Far East?
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    To make profit? They are a business...

    Some of the finest bikes in the world are made in Taiwan and China.
  • Jimbo.
    Jimbo. Posts: 124
    NapoleonD wrote:
    To make profit? They are a business...

    Some of the finest bikes in the world are made in Taiwan and China.

    And I agree. However, much like opting for, say, a Morgan over an Mazda MX-5, there're a certain sense of satisfaction in knowing that what you behold was put together by someone who gives a toss, rather than an accountant...
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    Poor analogy, Morgans cost a lot more than an MX5...

    Anyhoo, why does the language someone speaks in a mass production bike facility matter? They will be made in the same manner but in a different country. What makes you think the people making them in the USA give more of a toss about the product than the taiwanese workers?
  • Jimbo.
    Jimbo. Posts: 124
    The '9 was built by a small number of Cannondale-employed workers, in a Cannondale factory. I'll give them some credit and say they knew this, and took pride in their work. And it showed, with jolly nice frames gracing many a' road.

    The '10 is sub-contracted out to some generic bike factory which churns out bike by the thousand for x-dozen other manufacturers, only gaining what little "Cannondale" identity it has when the stickers are put on. It's become a cookie-cutter bike, much like the Pinnacles, Claud Butlers, Carreras, Boardmans, Planet-Xs, Ribbles etc of this world. As a result, there's little to distinguish the '10 from any other bike on the showroom floor.

    IIRC, change in material. Why? Evolution, or changed to meet the appointed factory's capabilities?
    "Lumpier" welds. Why? Cost-cutting? Poorer production standards? I know how a weld "looks" is nowhere near as important as how *well* it's done, but it's the little details like the smoothed welds that make the '9 such a joy to behold. Again, looking at it, you know someone was bothered about it..

    Snobbish? Yes, but then snobbery is rampant in cycling. How else would you explain such a big market for heniously expensive pushbikes? So it's not as if I'm being unnecessarily awkward here!
  • CAAD9 for me!
  • I can see the Caad 9 becoming much sought after in the future, just because of the "cult" status surrounding it now. The "Made in USA" frames will be in big demand and anything made after those (ie Asia) will be just another Cannondale and never worth what the USA frames will be.

    Better hoover up all the Caad 9s on Ebay :wink:
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