How serious is this crack?

msherry21
msherry21 Posts: 42
edited August 2010 in Workshop
Hi all, a newbie to the forums here but long time MTB cyclist on roads and now have a Specialized Allez road bike.

I have just spotted this "crack" on my bike just below the handle bars, how serious is this? can it be welded/repaired? can the bike still be safely ridden with this?

I assume its an aluminium frame??

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I hope someone can help here.

Cheers,
Michael.
Mobile Car Valeting

Mobile Car Valet & Detailing Specialist based in Glasgow.

Comments

  • Weejie54
    Weejie54 Posts: 750
    That looks like a serious crack and unsafe. Aluminium doesn't give much in the way of warning before it gives up the ghost completely. IMHO, you should not ride it and seek advice from a framebuilder who works with aluminium frames.

    The dreaded word 'warranty' might rear its head - or, if a recent purchase, seek replacement from retailer.
  • unixnerd
    unixnerd Posts: 2,864
    An Allez is a pretty popular bike. I reckon you might pick up a good used frame for less than it'd cost to repair that (if it can be repaired). You certainly shouldn't ride it.
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  • balthazar
    balthazar Posts: 1,565
    If you bought the bike new, contact your Specialized dealer. Specialized are famously helpful in regard to warranty claims, and may subsidise a replacement frame even if yours is out of warranty.
  • pinkbikini
    pinkbikini Posts: 876
    No way should you continue to ride this frame. I agree with above, replacement frame might be better than a repair (not sure you could repair that easily). Was it a bike you've owned from new, how long, if second-hand then how long have you had it? It looks like it might have been the result of some ham-fisted mechanics in the past.
    Start a new thread asking about frame repair recommendations in your vicinity.
    Sorry, prob not what you wanted to hear...
  • softlad
    softlad Posts: 3,513
    just to reiterate what has already been said - the crack is terminal and the bike should not be ridden. If you bought the bike from a retailer, take it straight back there.....
  • Splottboy
    Splottboy Posts: 3,695
    I was very afrad to open this, after reading the title...

    Thought it may be from Bruno.
  • That is a defective frame. If I were a Specialized person I would unhesitatingly offer a replacement.

    Folks - Do not buy a Specialized Allez.
  • softlad
    softlad Posts: 3,513
    Folks - Do not buy a Specialized Allez.

    that's a bit harsh, especially when you don't even know what caused it.....
  • sibike
    sibike Posts: 257
    i had a 2005 allez crack in the same place .took it back to the retailer and they got me a newer allez frame for free .Just had to pay for a rebuild . They wanted proof of purchase and said they wouldnt of replaced if it was second hand .
  • father_jack
    father_jack Posts: 3,509
    "Just had to pay for a rebuild"? WHAT? Was it new, and within 12 months? If so I would never go back to that bike shop again.
    Say... That's a nice bike..
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  • sibike
    sibike Posts: 257
    it was 2 years old when the crack(s) appeared and i took it to a different specialised dealership .
  • ynyswen24
    ynyswen24 Posts: 703
    "Just had to pay for a rebuild"? WHAT? Was it new, and within 12 months? If so I would never go back to that bike shop again.

    as far as I know labour for a warranty is chargeable, it usually isn't (and shouldn't be) as a gesture of goodwill. But in this case with a bike taken to a different dealer and given it's age it's reasonable enough.
  • softlad wrote:
    Folks - Do not buy a Specialized Allez.

    that's a bit harsh, especially when you don't even know what caused it.....

    I don't know how old the bike is, but it looks pretty new. And that just does not look like a crack which has resulted from a crash. Instead, it looks like a crack which has propogated from a defect in the head tube during normal usage and perhaps over a moderate timescale.

    You would expect to see a crack like that in a 10 year old frame which has been banged over poor road surfaces for most of its life.
  • whyamihere
    whyamihere Posts: 7,708
    softlad wrote:
    Folks - Do not buy a Specialized Allez.

    that's a bit harsh, especially when you don't even know what caused it.....

    I don't know how old the bike is, but it looks pretty new. And that just does not look like a crack which has resulted from a crash. Instead, it looks like a crack which has propogated from a defect in the head tube during normal usage and perhaps over a moderate timescale.

    You would expect to see a crack like that in a 10 year old frame which has been banged over poor road surfaces for most of its life.
    Manufacturing defects are unavoidable. They're going to happen at some point. The Allez is a fantastically popular bike, there are millions of them on the roads around the world. Some of them are going to have problems. Most of them, it seems, don't. There's no reason to avoid them.
  • Monty Dog
    Monty Dog Posts: 20,614
    Early Allez alloy frames were notorious for cracking and Specialized are probably the best at honouring warranties - be grateful it's not a Trek!
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  • rich88
    rich88 Posts: 2
    There is no way I would ride that bike.

    I'm just trying to envision what would happen if your head tube catastrophically failed while riding and it's not a pretty picture.
  • mike ives
    mike ives Posts: 319
    Do Trek have a bad reputation for warranties/customer service etc?
  • father_jack
    father_jack Posts: 3,509
    rich88 wrote:
    There is no way I would ride that bike.

    I'm just trying to envision what would happen if your head tube catastrophically failed while riding and it's not a pretty picture.

    Something like this?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLRDRzMWIsg
    Say... That's a nice bike..
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  • thel33ter
    thel33ter Posts: 2,684
    Specialized do crash replacement so they will almost certainly replace the frame.
    And now you know, and knowing is half the battle
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  • Monty Dog
    Monty Dog Posts: 20,614
    mike ives wrote:
    Do Trek have a bad reputation for warranties/customer service etc?

    If you do a search, you'll find a number of threads where owners are in dispute with Trek regarding warranty claims
    Make mine an Italian, with Campagnolo on the side..
  • bice
    bice Posts: 772
    mike ives wrote:
    Do Trek have a bad reputation for warranties/customer service etc?

    I had a broken hybrid steel frame commuter which I rode to death. Evans in Wandsworth were very upset that I still had the receipt from 1994. Trek replaced the bike without arguing (not that I really wanted it); the kids at Evans were a pain in the neck.

    Not sure about the carbon forks on road bikes, however.