Pedal advice.

freehub

Hi.

So yesterday my left Shimano 105 SPD-SL peal broke, was pedalling, then next thing I know, my foot dangling, with the pedal still clipped in, the whole thing has broke off from the axle body, I've lost half the bearings, and don't think it can go back on? The axle dos not appear to have any threads or anything on it.

So if anyone knows if it can be repairable it would be good.

If the pedal is not repairable, I would like advice on new pedals, I need some new cleats anyway, so would I be better off going with a different make and cleats, or sticking with Shimano?

Thanks.

Rich Hcp

Get the pedals sent back to Shimano and replaced for free!

freehub

You sure that is possible? They're over a year old.

Who exactly would I contact? Shimano themselves and then send my pedals to Japan, or do I contact madison?

softlad

unless you can speak Japanese, I would think that calling the UK distributor might make more sense.....

Seriously though - I doubt if you will get anywhere with returning them, given the amount of miles you do.

Limburger

For the love of God how?

I can´t recall anything on any of the bikes I have owned failing catastrophically and I have owned 25 year old 20th hand steel city bikes that have never seen the inside of workshop in their long dreary lives. Not exactly precision engineered by Japanese scientists and crashed, dropped, left out in the rain for years on end.

Are you some kind of cack-handed tinkerer?



Try some Look Keo 2 Max pedals, though I suppose any from Look or Time will be fine, and fi you break those you might consider lawn bowls as a new hobby.

sungod

might be worth contacting the distributor to report the failure

that sort of failure could cause a bad accident, they might like to have it back for examination by shimano - because if it wasn't badly worn or damaged, why did it fail?

Buckled_Rims

Any chance of a few photos? I've 105 SPD-SL's and have to say they seem OK but they do seem to pick up lots of chips and are not as tough as I expected them to be. As I bought them a year ago they might be from the same batch as yours :shock:

freehub

I'll try post a pic later, just I've lost the cable for the phone so will have to use crappy bluetooth on this slow laptop.

fastercyclist

I think I have the same ones as you from the same time. There's a plastic bit that can break and the whole thing comes apart iirc; I had the pedal fly off onto the road. Got it replaced though.

freehub

Here is the pic:

(I removed all the crap to see it properly)




And for peoples info, I have not tampered with the pedals before or attempted to take them apart, so don't try to blame me.

fastercyclist

Looks identical to what happened to mine, the plastic bit broke off and the pedal comes off the axel. Return to distributor for replacement.

freehub

Am I able to contact Madison directly? Just I bought em from Edinburgh Bicycle in Manchester and I can't get there now.

Team Banana Spokesman

looking at your posts you seem to have dne hundreds of hours on these no?

so its just normal wear.

you can take pedals apart for general cleaning/maintenance and this extends the life a LOT as well as indicating to you how long they have left.

keef66

Looking at the exploded diagram on Shimano tech docs it looks like there should be a threaded bit on the thin end of the axle, so I suspect it's snapped off inside the pedal body.

If that is the case, it's hardly fair wear and tear. You need to complain to the shop where you bought them.

mroli

Why don't you phone Edinburgh and ask them what to do?

bobpzero

if you cant get it repaired. maybe try speedplay zero.

Rich Hcp

keef66 wrote:

Looking at the exploded diagram on Shimano tech docs it looks like there should be a threaded bit on the thin end of the axle, so I suspect it's snapped off inside the pedal body.

If that is the case, it's hardly fair wear and tear. You need to complain to the shop where you bought them.

I had the same after about a week's use. Three years ago.

They were replaced FOC

Contact EBC and see what they say, its not normal wear and tear, esp if there is no crash damage

freehub

Unfortunately it looks like I cannot get em replaced, the underside of the pedal is scratched alot, and a deep gash, so it is likely Shimano would say this caused it to be damaged despite not cracking into the inside where the axle is. He basically said I must be having a laugh trying to replace these.

Buckled_Rims

keef66 wrote:

Looking at the exploded diagram on Shimano tech docs it looks like there should be a threaded bit on the thin end of the axle, so I suspect it's snapped off inside the pedal body.

If that is the case, it's hardly fair wear and tear. You need to complain to the shop where you bought them.

Yeah, agreed. Looks like the end bit has sheared off. Even the Ultegra has the same design, but the DA doesn't have the thread at the end of it's shaft.

Rich Hcp

freehub wrote:

Unfortunately it looks like I cannot get em replaced, the underside of the pedal is scratched alot, and a deep gash, so it is likely Shimano would say this caused it to be damaged despite not cracking into the inside where the axle is. He basically said I must be having a laugh trying to replace these.

You won't know how likely it is until you try.

You don't get anything unless you ask.

Even if you get a percentage off, its a percentage that you won't have to pay

cougie

I'd certainly try and get them replaced. I've never had a pedal fail like that. Then again I've ridden Looks and Times for the last few decades. I see no reason to change.

fastercyclist

freehub wrote:

Unfortunately it looks like I cannot get em replaced, the underside of the pedal is scratched alot, and a deep gash, so it is likely Shimano would say this caused it to be damaged despite not cracking into the inside where the axle is. He basically said I must be having a laugh trying to replace these.

To be fair, even if you've used them they shouldn't be falling apart like that. It is a design error, using plastic to hold that bit together despite the huge forces it goes under. It happened to me so it should be a known issue as I suspect there's plenty of others out there with the same problem.

P.S. who is he?

It isn't shimano who replaces it, it's the person who sold it to you.

Here's a quote from sales of goods act.

• Goods are of satisfactory quality if they reach the standard that a reasonable person would regard as satisfactory, taking into account the price and any description.

• Aspects of quality include fitness for purpose, freedom from minor defects, appearance and finish, durability and safety.

Quite clearly it isn't up to those standards. If the distributor doesn't like it, they shouldn't be selling it. Google for Sale of Goods Act Fact Sheet; if you want a decent chance of getting it replaced.

freehub

I'll have to wait till October to get em sent off, no shop in York will do it.

fastercyclist

freehub wrote:

I'll have to wait till October to get em sent off, no shop in York will do it.

Why would you do that?

Email/ring up the shop that sold it to you, they are the ones that have to do it. Just ring them and post them off and you'll get replacements through the post as long as you stand by your ground. Remember, the plastic bit breaking is a design fault.

You don't return them to shimano, you return them to the shop that sold it to you. They're the ones under legal obligations due to the sale of goods act.

bam49

Limburger wrote:

For the love of God how?

I can´t recall anything on any of the bikes I have owned failing catastrophically and I have owned 25 year old 20th hand steel city bikes that have never seen the inside of workshop in their long dreary lives. Not exactly precision engineered by Japanese scientists and crashed, dropped, left out in the rain for years on end.

Are you some kind of cack-handed tinkerer?



Try some Look Keo 2 Max pedals, though I suppose any from Look or Time will be fine, and fi you break those you might consider lawn bowls as a new hobby.

I think the above comment is a bit unfair.. Few months back a guy I was riding with came down heavily on the road as one of his Look pedals just sheared off as he was giving it maximum beans after coming dowm a short hill and going up the other side.. He said pedals were only a few years old.. So it does happen - metal fatigue or whatever I don't know .. I suggest bin the shimano's and get Time pedals , I think the Edge one ( not totally sure of name ),is great , got them on my Felt F1 they are the same design as RXS ( which I have on a Roubaix), but a lot cheaper.. Never had any probs so far and I have done loads of miles, sportives etc on both versions..

Karl2010

how much are these 105 pedals? 25 quid?

How many miles you had out of them? And how long you had them?

For 25 quid is it realy worth all the messing around?

Wamas

Those ones are the newer 105s, and are about £38, not £25.

spasypaddy

get some speedplays and be done with it