Camagnolo v Shimano Again!!!!!!!!!!!

heathrow86

Which component is easier, more readily available and cheaper tp upgrade in time? I am looking at Wilier bikes at the moment, most of which are fitted with Campag Miche/Mirage components. If i future I wish to upgrade would I be better buying a Shimano equiped bike?

sub55

tubs

sturmey

Look at it another way:

Which car is the more reliable- a Toyota Corolla or a Fiat Punto?

Enough said.

bexley5200

fiat punto mines done 150k

morstar

Does this mean you can get bikes with sticking accelerators?
That's gotta hurt the legs.

fignon03

Campag if you want top quality which will last for years, shimano if you want average quality which will last no so long

sub55

fignon03 wrote:

Campag if you want top quality which will last for years, shimano if you want average quality which will last no so long

you wish

APIII

Campag wears in, Shimano wears out, as the old saying goes.
You'll akways find Shimano components easier to find though, probably because replacements are in high demand. See my 1st comment.

ilm_zero7

heathrow86
I have a Wilier with Campag and a Felt and Cervelo with Shimano - Campag every time for me - just that the other bike came with Shimano - So i wouldnt consider a switch from Campag an upgrade

Eau Rouge

Wilier's are Italian, so sticking with the Italian groupset seems more elegant, I have Campagnolo on mine. I prefer the look of the levers and cranks to the Shimano ones, but thats both a personal matter and doesn't effect how good they are.
For upgrading, there is a slight catch. The lower end Campagnolo stuff is 10 speed, while the upper groupsets are 11 speed. This means you need to upgrade shifters, rear derailer and cassette at least all at the same time. With Shimano you could do it one piece at a time, though if you plan to do the whole lot together anyway that isn't really an issue.
Have a look at SRAM too, they are a very legitimate alternative to the other two.

stronginthesun

ive had 2 bikes one with campag veloce and the latest with shimano 105 , which are supposed to be equivalent . the 105 is much better .

Team Banana Spokesman

dont waste money upgrading. aim high. get a topend group.

Minimum for Shimano is Dura-ace really. all the others dont really feel good to me.
Sram red is better than dura ace and cheaper.
Campagnolo beats them all though. chorus is slightly better than dura-ace IMO. Better off not going for 11 speed though if you want to save money. some parts of it are pricey......!

flanners1

It's all bollocks really though innit, go for what you like and what you want to spend/budget allows. At most people's level it makes little or no difference to overall performance. Nowt wrong with Ultegra and DA. Campag Centaur and above SRAM all are good really.

rolf_f

Eau Rouge wrote:

For upgrading, there is a slight catch. The lower end Campagnolo stuff is 10 speed, while the upper groupsets are 11 speed. This means you need to upgrade shifters, rear derailer and cassette at least all at the same time. With Shimano you could do it one piece at a time, though if you plan to do the whole lot together anyway that isn't really an issue.

Plenty of Record 10 speed still available on the net. And there doesn't seem to be any technical difference between Centaur and Chorus shifters at least so really only the mechs, cranks and rings are probably worth upgrading. The lower end brakes don't have ceramic bearings but is anyone going to notice that? Of course, you end up with a mixture of labels on your components which might be upsetting........

hopper1

Cut out the shite... Head straight for SRAM Red!..

































You know it makes sense!

bigpikle

I have Ultegra on one bike and Centaur on another. They are different and ave different strengths IMHO so I'd recommend trying to ride bikes with both and see which suits you.

Having done >1000 miles on each now I'd confidently say that the Shimano is smoother and just seems to work better, but the Campag feels nicer in use. I have no idea which I would go for on my next bike but TBH they are both excellent mid-range groupsets and it really wouldnt matter. Shimano seems to e cheaper for changes like cassettes etc and might be the choice my head makes next time, but I havent tried SRAM yet...

acidstrato

99% of the advice in this thread are bias views and individual's opinions

shimano lasts as long as it needs too if you maintain it. if you've never tried campag but fancy giving it a go then why not. you wont need to upgrade the whole gruppo if you decide to upgrade something in the future

stonehouse

I just went from a Campi Veloce setup to Ultegra having been a fan of Campi since I was a boy. I have to say that I never managed to get Campi setup as nice as the Ultegra, far more precise and the levers are in the right place for me too! I doubt I'd go back now to be honest.

inseine

I cringe when I hear Campy, but Campi ! aaaaaargh.
CAMPAG if you must.

ride_whenever

What really sways it for me is the availability of spares for the higher end campagnolo stuff. It is simply better put together and better designed.

However in terms of what to use, go with what you get on best with.

amnezia

Campag on the best bike.

Cheap shimano stuff on the commuter.

STEFANOS4784

Microshift, best value by far........................ :roll: