Wheels. QR / Through axles? IM CONFUSED!

brady10
brady10 Posts: 195
edited June 2010 in MTB workshop & tech
I know theres a new type of fitting for wheels now that doesnt use a QR. It used a through axle or summat? =/ Ive honestly no idea how it works. My question is, ive bought a nukeproof front wheel QR/20mm, can i use the new through axle things with it? and if so, where can i buy them, and are they expensive?
WOW really? Carbon Fibre Hubs?? Well how about chucking that kebab in the bin?

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  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    maybe if we know what you are talking about.

    but those wheels are standard Qr fitting or 20mm fitting.

    so what are you on about?
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
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  • brady10
    brady10 Posts: 195
    Sorry i was unsure how to go about wording it. Yea they're 20mm or QR. But what does the 22mm mean? =/
    WOW really? Carbon Fibre Hubs?? Well how about chucking that kebab in the bin?
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    sorry you are still not making any sense?

    22mm what where how........
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
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  • brady10
    brady10 Posts: 195
    Oops sorry, i meant 20mm. im making this worse aren't I =D
    WOW really? Carbon Fibre Hubs?? Well how about chucking that kebab in the bin?
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    the will fit a fork that uses a 20mm axle.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
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  • brady10
    brady10 Posts: 195
    I have recon race 09 solo air forks. You seem to know everything on these forums; any idea if they're 20mm compataible :)
    WOW really? Carbon Fibre Hubs?? Well how about chucking that kebab in the bin?
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    do they have a 20mm axle? no then no a 20mm axle can not be used.

    but that does not matter as the wheels are Qr fitting.
    here is a 2010 recon solo air with a 20mm axle.
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    and here is a Qr version
    hero_large_12.jpg

    it is an either or option. Unless you want to buy a replacement 2009 set of lowers that take a 20mm axle.
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  • bike-a-swan
    bike-a-swan Posts: 1,235
    Isn't there some sort of solid axle that works with qr forks that some are using to stiffen forks up? I can't remember the details or where I saw it, I'm afraid, but I thought it worked with some sort of hub converter.
    Rock Lobster 853, Trek 1200 and a very old, tired and loved Apollo Javelin.
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    bike-a-swan
    yep Spesh used it in the stout front hubs. and DT are doing a version now as are Superstar. but you need a suitable hub.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
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  • BigAirNig
    BigAirNig Posts: 296
    Why not put a picture of your hub and fork on, so we can see what you actually have !!??!?

    The white recon fork above is shown with a thru-axle that slides out of the fork and then through a larger hole in the hub, so the QR is chunky and screws in to the fork, going through the hub.

    There are 15mm and 20mm thru-axle sizes, depending on the usage etc.

    Standard quick release skewers are in place through the hub [with the wheel off the bike] and the wheel then tightens to the fork with the skewer being tightened.

    You say your new hub is a 20mm thru axle design, fine - you need to have the relevant 20mm thru axle fitment on your forks - either you have them or you don't, you can't convert a standard quick release fork to thru axle (that I know of).

    So do your forks have the same fitment as the picture above (white recon fork) ??
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  • bike-a-swan
    bike-a-swan Posts: 1,235
    Cheers Nick, I knew I'd seen it somewhere, superstar it is! Spesh have got their magic 'stiff as a qr15' hub/fork interface too, of course...
    Rock Lobster 853, Trek 1200 and a very old, tired and loved Apollo Javelin.
  • *AJ*
    *AJ* Posts: 1,080
    Ive got a Specialized Stout hub, with a 9mm QR and DT swiss RWS skewer its ok, but its not amazing. lol
  • captainfly
    captainfly Posts: 1,001
    I currently use a fire eye F920 QR with it's 9mm solid QR in the toras on the teocali and is really impressive over the standard QR in terms of stiffness and wheel placement, not quite upto a 20mm Maxle but not far off imo, with the real bonus of being able to run it on Pikes if I ever find a pair that I can afford at the time or use on the STP w/argyles if I damage that wheel. :roll:
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  • joshtp
    joshtp Posts: 3,966
    OK.

    QR forks work with QR wheels, and with aftermarket 10mm through axels like the superstar one,

    fat axeled forks work with the corresponding size (theres 2 , 15mm and 20mm) hub.
    some hubs can be converted, but forks cannot with the exeption of the society Xeno
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  • joshtp
    joshtp Posts: 3,966
    joshtp/mbukman wrote:
    OK.

    QR forks work with QR wheels, and with aftermarket 10mm through axels like the superstar one,

    fat axeled forks work with the corresponding size (theres 2 , 15mm and 20mm) hub.
    some hubs can be converted, but forks cannot with the exeption of the society Xeno
    i should also add that your hub can be used with either QR or a 20mm using adaptors, but cannot be used with a superstar 10mm thru or a 15mm. unless nukeproof bring out more adaptors in the future.

    your hub is good becouse it can be used with your forks no mater what, as the recons came with either a maxle (20mm system used by RockShox and Magura) or QR dropouts.

    20mm is the stiffest and imho the best, 15 is a bit lighter and a bit flexyer, its a good halfway house, the superstar 10mm thing is a good way to add a bit of stifness to a QR fork, but is a bit halfharted really, and not great.

    QR is the original, and is the lightest, but also the flexyest, it tends to be looked down on, but is OK....


    i think maxel is the easyest and fastest system to use .. but many would disagree, and there are loads of 20mm designs, some very fiddly.
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  • tsenior
    tsenior Posts: 664
    I was going to start a thread in buying advice but my query seems to fit in here...

    i'm looking at getting some new forks this year and noticed that next years rockshox will have the 15mm option:

    "We see 15mm being cross-country, trail and light all-mountain.............. In our product line it tops out at Revelation"

    long-term i'm going to look after the fork and take it with me when i upgrade frames in a couple of years, my wheels are currently standard QR but i'm prepared to take the long view and rebuild/replace the front IF these axles are the future for my type of riding (which pretty much matches the quote above).

    Any views on this?

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