10mile TT times for beginners?

danowat
danowat Posts: 2,877
edited July 2010 in Road beginners
A local CC does 10 mile TT's, so I decided to use their route and run an unofficial TT.

What sort of times are respectable for beginners? (I know, everyone is different, conditions, route yadda yadda), the route is fairly flat (424ft climb), fairly brisk headwind (excuses, excuses), what would be a respectable time?.

I managed 29:20, did a second lap, albeit at a much comfortable pace, and did the 20 in 1:03
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  • mkirby
    mkirby Posts: 365
    im doing 34:24 on our 10, there are a few more hills. Sub 30 is good going for a beginner or im really slow. :oops:
  • markmod
    markmod Posts: 501
    edited May 2010
    Hey good first time Danowat... Mine was a really slow headwind speed sapping 32+ mins on my road bike.... Non aero helmet with no clip on bars... But I have the bug now and have the afore mentioned and hope to now improve somewhat...

    Lo and pro is fine but now if only my moobs.. Ahem... I mean my muscular pectorals didn't get in the way of my knees!!
  • tonkin
    tonkin Posts: 67
    10m in 30min is 20mph.
  • danowat
    danowat Posts: 2,877
    The reason I ask, was that I might have a go at a TT, but didn't fancy getting totally wasted!!!!.

    It was on my road bike, normal helmet, no tri bars.

    I actually quite enjoyed going for it for 10 miles, made the slow(er) 2nd lap seem much more comfortable!
  • lucan
    lucan Posts: 339
    The clubs that use the TT courses normally have a website and post the results and times on there. If I were you I'd google a few local clubs and see what comes up.

    Sounds like a respectable time though.
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  • markos1963
    markos1963 Posts: 3,724
    danowat wrote:
    The reason I ask, was that I might have a go at a TT, but didn't fancy getting totally wasted!!!!.

    It was on my road bike, normal helmet, no tri bars.

    I actually quite enjoyed going for it for 10 miles, made the slow(er) 2nd lap seem much more comfortable!

    What course? I was a beginner last year around our area so could give you an idea. Some courses like the Ketteringham one catches newbies out and they rarely get under 30 mins on the first go. Sheringham on the other hand is fast and a sub 28 for a beginner is not unusual with the course record under 20 mins :shock:
  • danowat
    danowat Posts: 2,877
    Lucan wrote:
    The clubs that use the TT courses normally have a website and post the results and times on there. If I were you I'd google a few local clubs and see what comes up.

    Sounds like a respectable time though.

    Good point!!!! > http://www.ccbreckland.org.uk/modules.p ... le&sid=490

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  • stokepa31
    stokepa31 Posts: 560
    the local club that do a 10 mile TT near me seem to post times of between 21 and 34 ins on their website. I ride past it every Tuesday night and get terrorised by the sound of filled in back wheels coming to get me. Its Hinckley Road Club if anyone is interested but they do their TT near wolvey on the outskirts of Coventry

    must have a crack at it one Tuesday
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  • tlw1
    tlw1 Posts: 22,258
    10k is on my must do list this year
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,909
    30 minutes is always a pretty convenient time as a first target unless on a particularly tough course. You will also probably find you go that bit quicker in an organised race. In an official tt you will be held to start so may be quicker if you started with a foot down or longer if you had a flying start but only a few seconds either way. It's a good first effort though.
  • Mike67
    Mike67 Posts: 585
    30 minutes sounds pretty reasonable, it's what I did on my first 10 miler last year.

    I've got it down to 27.30 now with the help of clip on aero bars, and a little training of course :wink:

    Now all I need is a TT helmet, a skinsuit, overshoes, disc wheel, shiny new TT bike...........etc etc.

    This TT bug can get expensive :D

    Good fun though, keep at it, you'll be doing 25s and 50s before you know it.
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,909
    edited May 2010
    Double post sorry!
  • pamuzu
    pamuzu Posts: 89
    Sorry to sound ignorant...

    On these time did you allow for traffic lights or do you have a clear run planned out?

    I leather it to work but cycling thorugh Manchester get caught at most lights. Takes me 32mins for 8.5 miles, top speed on flats 24mph.

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  • jibberjim
    jibberjim Posts: 2,810
    pamuzu wrote:
    On these time did you allow for traffic lights or do you have a clear run planned out?

    I leather it to work but cycling thorugh Manchester get caught at most lights. Takes me 32mins for 8.5 miles, top speed on flats 24mph.

    They're all on time trial courses which are particularly designed not to have any traffic lights, nor any other reason to stop hopefully (ie you're always on at most a Give Way, and likely such that you'll not have to do it.

    They're generally on major roads with good surfaces and wide turns on roundabouts.

    On my TT bike, I can average over 28mph for a 10, but I'll never average 18mph on a commute no matter how hard I'm hammering it.
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  • pamuzu
    pamuzu Posts: 89
    Thanks Jim,

    That sounds hopefull however it will take me a while to get to 28mph!

    TT sounds the way to go. Are there organised events to apply for?

    Thanks

    Phil
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  • kettrinboy
    kettrinboy Posts: 613
    you dont have to join a club to have a go at a TT, a lot of club,s will let rider,s turn up and pay and enter on the line, it depends on what type of TT it is ,ie closed to club or open to allcomers, that way you can get a taste without committing to joining a club,thats what i,m gonna do i think , at my current best of 28,25 on one of the local club TT loops i,d be in the bottom third of the field going on the results on their website but not last.
  • danowat
    danowat Posts: 2,877
    Yeah, its clear that the course was laid out in such a way that you can get a good, continous run of 10miles.

    I can see that TT's could get addictive, its a nice short blast, pretty much the equivalent of a 5k in running circles.
  • Variado
    Variado Posts: 107
    I did 29:45 on my first 10TT, with a road bike, 700x25s and normal kit (no tribars). Suffered like a dog in the process, which rather put me off doing it again - found the Col de la Madeleine a more enjoyable experience, which is saying something.
  • bazbadger
    bazbadger Posts: 553
    I just did my second one last night.

    Really enjoyed it - worth giving it a go.

    It was a flat course and got a 28.41 which I'm pleased with.

    A lot depends on weather too - ie wind :)
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  • Matt the Tester
    Matt the Tester Posts: 1,261
    Variado wrote:
    I did 29:45 on my first 10TT, with a road bike, 700x25s and normal kit (no tribars). Suffered like a dog in the process, which rather put me off doing it again - found the Col de la Madeleine a more enjoyable experience, which is saying something.
    i guess the weather down there must of been horrid!? i done my first TT last week and managed a 27:51 :D average speed of 22mph
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  • a_n_t
    a_n_t Posts: 2,011
    did my first 10 last season and just wanted to get under 30 mins, did a 27:30 something.

    best so far this season, 23:48 and yes, they are bloody addictive!!

    started on this:

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    upgraded this season to this :)

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  • starlet_gt
    starlet_gt Posts: 88
    Me and my brother had a go at a TT last week, I posted a time of 31:00 and he posted 26:48, this was our first go at a TT. I was on a standard road bike and my bro was on a road bike with clip on aero bars.

    Theres about 288ft of climbing on the route and some poor road surfacing at the end sadly.

    My aim now is to hit under the 30min mark in a few weeks time.
  • Variado
    Variado Posts: 107
    i guess the weather down there must have been horrid!?

    Hot, humid and a gusting wind, so far from ideal. After six miles I was suffering, and then really hated the last four trying to maintain the speed up above 20mph so I could hit 'par'. At least on a mountain there's usually a flatter bit where you can drop down into 34/27 and get yourself back together (or, if it comes to it, pause 'just to check for a mechanical'). Against the clock you've just got to keep going.

    I'm fitter now, so would probably be quicker - and have the sense to avoid rubbish conditions. Just don't really have a burning desire to go through it all again!
  • danowat
    danowat Posts: 2,877
    Must stop looking at all these carlos fandango TT bikes and bits, I am getting broody!
  • Matt the Tester
    Matt the Tester Posts: 1,261
    lol yeah danowat, im feeling the same way! ive only done one TT and im already looking into buying a new bike when i get a job!
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  • drumsmasher
    drumsmasher Posts: 241
    Interesting posts as i am having a go at my first 10 mile tt tonight. So far i have been looking at the wind, the temp, the elevation....and then came to the conclusion that it will be the same for all the riders who enter. So.....i'll have to see whats in the legs n lungs i guess.
    Its weird as a beginner because its a mix of fear about ending up with a poor time, setting off too fast and blowing up, or not setting off fast enough and having too much to do at the end!
    All this just go and enjoy it stuff doesnt really work if you are competitive...but if i do finish last....i'll just say i enjoyed it and thats what i came for.....before going home and being grumpy for a few days!!!
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  • Avoneer
    Avoneer Posts: 525
    Does wind help you go faster :wink:

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  • Matt the Tester
    Matt the Tester Posts: 1,261
    if it's a talwind it will do :) :P
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  • ravey1981
    ravey1981 Posts: 1,111
    Well i did my first ever TT last week over what i would consider to be a VERY hilly 10...

    this course:

    http://www.rttc.org.uk/?&gv852__gvac=2& ... &tabid=362

    I did 34:36 which i was reasonably happy with for a first time on that course (hadn't ridden for two months previous either)....got some clip ons and a new bike now so i'm hoping to be into the 33s at least next time out...

    Would like to have a go on a "flat" course though to see what i can do...
  • dru
    dru Posts: 1,341
    I'm looking to start TTing as well.

    Going to do my first 10 mile TT on Friday night Cardiff (weather pending)and then next week there's a rumour I'm going to be doing a 4up 25TT at Glyn-neath.

    I've no idea what sort of time I'll do, I guess it's just a case of doing it and then using it as a starting point/bench mark for future races.