Calling all 14 stone plus cyclists

flyer
flyer Posts: 608
edited May 2010 in Road beginners
Having been riding for only 4 years I wondered how fit or more likely unfit I am.

AGE 50 - Weight 14st 6Ib - Bike - Roubiax Pro - (Only ride to try and keep fit)

Last year did about 160 miles per week, then did nothing from Nov09 - Feb 10!!!!!

My data is ave mph on undulating road is 16.8mph over a 40 mile ride and Cadance of 81 and average HR of 131 bpm.

If you are a similar weight to me it would be interseting to see how unfit I am


Thanks

Flyer
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    As this is a cycling forum there will be a hell of a lot of people fitter than you.

    However, you will be a hell of a lot fitter than most other people your age!
  • carrock
    carrock Posts: 1,103
    not bad actually- my average is lower than that and I'm 5 years younger- and 2 stone fatter...which explains a lot

    There will be some heroes who average 20mph for 6 hours but your figures are perfectly respectable

    I would guess a stone or so lost would improve your average still further- at least on hilly terrain
  • spinndrift
    spinndrift Posts: 185
    Back on the bike for 12 months after 11 years of not riding and having an accident induced mental breakdown and lard binge.

    Age: 37

    Weight: 18 stone 10 lbs (was 22 stone 3 lbs 12 months ago)

    Bike: Fuji Cross Pro

    Figures for a 38 mile undulating ride (not cracked the 40 mile mark yet) are average speed of 15.4 mph and average HR of 150 bpm and don't have cadence computer yet but from the static bike in the gym I know I'm in the 80-90 range
    Cheers

    Andy
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  • danowat
    danowat Posts: 2,877
    Wow, you'll get a HECK of a lot of variables, as (IMO), age, weight and HR are all pretty much unique, and everyone will tend to be quite different, and even those of similar age, fitness, weight and HR will have different speeds, paces and strenghts
  • redvee
    redvee Posts: 11,922
    I'm a svelte 15stone 2 ish when I last weighed myself in January and 38. My averages for the year so far are, most of which apart from the last 3 weeks wee on a SS road bike:

    Ride Time 4:46:41
    Distance 66.95 miles
    Ave speed 13.33 mph
    Ave Max 28.20 mph.
    I've added a signature to prove it is still possible.
  • Velonutter
    Velonutter Posts: 2,437
    Am 50, just over a year ago was 21 1/2 stone, now just under 14 stone and 5'10"

    Did 90 miles on Saturday at an average of just under 17.7 mph, did 30 miles this evening at 19.1 mph

    I do between 2-300 miles a week, very rarely drop under 17mph.

    Good Luck, if I can do it then anyone can!
  • joosed
    joosed Posts: 24
    You must surely live in a very flat area if you "very rarely drop under 17mph".

    You should come to my neck of the woods - Ayrshire, not the most mountainous of places sho'nuff - and see if you can maintain speed above 17mph up our hills. .

    Sean Kelly says that Philipe Gilbert averages 17mph on his long solo training rides - maybe some of you big older guys should be looking to compete with the senior pros like Malc Elliot..
  • Dave-M
    Dave-M Posts: 206
    38 and 16 stone at the start of the year.

    ACL reconstruction April 2009 (right leg) . Thigh trauma (left leg) and whip lash April 2010.

    Cycling keeps me sane, and out in the open air whilst I can't do any motocross.

    Doing about 100 miles a week, finding the time seems to be the hard part.

    I usually do 2 20 odd miles rides and then a longer one at the weekend adding 10 miles a week......currently at 60.

    Average is high 15s. I've not yet done a 17mph ave on a smaller ride, and it's a cause of constant frustration!
    2010 Specialized Allez Elite
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  • Rich Hcp
    Rich Hcp Posts: 1,355
    Dave-M wrote:
    Average is high 15s. I've not yet done a 17mph ave on a smaller ride, and it's a cause of constant frustration!

    You shouldn't worry about other people's average speed, they are different people on different bikes in a different place.

    As long as you are consistant and show improvement over time, then it doesn't matter
    Richard

    Giving it Large
  • Velonutter
    Velonutter Posts: 2,437
    joosed wrote:
    You must surely live in a very flat area if you "very rarely drop under 17mph".

    You should come to my neck of the woods - Ayrshire, not the most mountainous of places sho'nuff - and see if you can maintain speed above 17mph up our hills. .

    Sean Kelly says that Philipe Gilbert averages 17mph on his long solo training rides - maybe some of you big older guys should be looking to compete with the senior pros like Malc Elliot..

    I was referring to my average speed, I should have made that clearer.

    Most rides are between 3000-5000 ft of climbing
  • im 31, around 14stone. 3 rides so far on my new bike. 1st one, 26miles, avg 12.5mph, very hilly, bit windy. 2nd ride, 13.5miles, avg 13.5mph, very hilly, no wind. 3rd ride, 57miles, avg 14.7mph, mostly flatish, little wind.

    I think i'll be happy if i can keep over 15mph avg except for the hilliest of areas of course, that's my current target, consistently putting in +15mph avg rides. i'm loving road riding though (although certain parts of me aren't loving the saddle!!) :lol:

    Duke
  • stonehouse
    stonehouse Posts: 222
    Whilst it is impossible to generalise on your stats, they sound like reasonable figures to me.

    Would be interested to know what your max HR is, as your ave HR of 131bpm seems quite low. I'd be more like 150 ave for that kind of ave speed and I'm just a few months younger.

    Main thing is to enjoy what you do even if the younger readers on here have no idea that just because we are getting older doesn't mean we don't hanker after being quicker and wanting to keep up with the young ones ;)
  • Velonutter
    Velonutter Posts: 2,437
    I used to be highly competitive when I was younger and reasonably successful, when I was 38 I became a very bad diabetic on 1000 units of insulin a day and put on over 10 stone, so when the Docs fixed me last year it was a golden opportunity to get back on a bike.

    At 50 it has been an uphill struggle, I'm training with lads half my age who leave me for dust on the hills, but I get them on the flats.

    Since getting back on the bike in July last year I have done 4000+ miles, most of that done from September onwards as to start with I was only doing 30/40 a week.

    Just cos I have pushed myself doesn't mean anyone else should, I have hated the pain, but enjoyed the rewards of feeling younger, healthier and not out of breath. In 3 weeks I will be riding from London to Paris, I know it will hurt, but that is my incentive to prove that I can get better.

    Average speed is all relative, as things don't get easier, you just get faster, I can remember doing 6 miles at 14 mph last July and last night did 30 at 19.1 mph it does come if you persevere.

    Good Luck everyone.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,716
    I'm 37 and last time I weighed I was just over 14 stone (6' 1") having got down from 14 stone 10 at my heaviest when I started back on the bike. I don't know what my heart rate is like these days but suspect it is higher than yours purely from an age perspective but my average on a course as you describe would be similar to what you have quoted.

    Weight in itself isn't necessarily an issue - when I originally started cycling I was under 11 stone, my best mate was around 15 stone and whilst I would climb better than him he would hammer me in time trials and sprints and we were similar in terms of endurance. Likewise, age isn't always an issue - my 57 year old club mate started the winning break in the Welsh champs last weekend and stayed in it for 15 miles before a bit of bad luck made him lose contact.

    As NapD says you are probably fitter than most people of your age and weight. If you ask the average man in the street if they could cycle 40 miles at all let alone at nearly 17 mph I suspect they would answer no and that includes people younger than you. I consider myself unfit by cycling standards but still get incredulous looks that I can do my 18.5 mile commute in just over an hour.
  • carrock
    carrock Posts: 1,103
    Slow-N-Old wrote:
    I used to be highly competitive when I was younger and reasonably successful, when I was 38 I became a very bad diabetic on 1000 units of insulin a day and put on over 10 stone, so when the Docs fixed me last year it was a golden opportunity to get back on a bike.

    At 50 it has been an uphill struggle, I'm training with lads half my age who leave me for dust on the hills, but I get them on the flats.

    Since getting back on the bike in July last year I have done 4000+ miles, most of that done from September onwards as to start with I was only doing 30/40 a week.

    Just cos I have pushed myself doesn't mean anyone else should, I have hated the pain, but enjoyed the rewards of feeling younger, healthier and not out of breath. In 3 weeks I will be riding from London to Paris, I know it will hurt, but that is my incentive to prove that I can get better.

    Average speed is all relative, as things don't get easier, you just get faster, I can remember doing 6 miles at 14 mph last July and last night did 30 at 19.1 mph it does come if you persevere.

    Good Luck everyone.


    1000 units of insulin? do you mean 100?

    I'm diabetic and take about 85 units a day- 1000 would kill me very quickly

    How did the docs fix your diabetes exactly?
  • I'm defo in this club :D
    (see my thread )
    http://www.bikeradar.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12703140
  • Velonutter
    Velonutter Posts: 2,437
    carrock wrote:
    .....

    1000 units of insulin? do you mean 100?

    I'm diabetic and take about 85 units a day- 1000 would kill me very quickly

    How did the docs fix your diabetes exactly?

    Nope i meant 1000 (one thousand) :cry:

    Things were getting worse and the weight was piling on through so much insulin, so they offered me the option of having a gastric bypass, but a modified version which would reduce the amount of food absorbed, within 2 months I was off all insulin and now just take one Metformin a day.

    It's been very hard trying to get enough food inside to cope with the mileage, but I'm getting there now. If you think your eyesight is diminishing and you have other diabetic related conditions such as kidney failure, then don't hesitate to get the op done it saved my life.
  • The_Beast
    The_Beast Posts: 89
    I used to qualify as a 14st cyclist, I've dropped from nearly 15.5st to 13st 10lb, and I only just starting riding from March.

    I'm managing 15mph ave. on 15-20 mile routes that I've just progressed too, so its seems I must be doing ok for a 36yr old. I was terribly unift when I started but in 12 weeks have improved vastly as I really push hard.

    I was going to up it and do a 28 mile route today but just did my new route of 16.5 miles with a few circuits near home to do around 18 miles. I said last night I wanted to do the 28 miles for a new challenge as I've done 16/17 miles about 4 times now.

    I certainly got my challenge alright today though. I passed some oldish fella who seemed to be going pretty steady up a hill but not on my pace. I noticed he had a club jersey on but his paced seemed laboured. I passed him and put the pedals down to get some distance and thought that was the end of him.

    Suddenly out of nowhere he popped along side me and asked me where I was heading but he was going elsewhere. I followed him and he really started to put the hammer down and I did my best to keep up for a few miles. After a bit I started to labour and noticed the old dog was pacing me at about 18mph average, I kid you not so I backed off as I had around 10 miles of journey left. I think he had goaded me but I saw the funny side of it. :D
  • Doombrain
    Doombrain Posts: 360
    36 Years. I was over 14 end of 2008, now under 12 stone. Not long had the road bike and didn't have a Garmin for the first 600 - 700 miles on the MTB.

    Progress Summary Report for doombrain for Road Bike

    Count: 23 Activities
    Time: 38:02:33 h:m:s
    Avg Time: 01:39:14 h:m:s
    Max Time: 03:26:15 h:m:s
    Elevation Gain: 26,254 ft
    Avg Elevation Gain: 1,141 ft
    Max Elevation Gain: 2,139 ft
    Avg Speed: 15.4 mph
    Max Speed: 41.7 mph
    Distance: 584.87 mi
    Avg Distance: 25.43 mi
    Max Distance: 51.08 mi
    Calories: 35,952 C
    Avg HR: 159 bpm
    LOL road riding.
  • Fogliettaz
    Fogliettaz Posts: 180
    I am 54 in 4 weeks and currently weigh 14.5 stone, last summer I was usually averaging 100miles per week and did 2 rounds of Mud Sweat & Gears and was down to 13 stone 10 last Autumn. Very little cycling over the winter and only just completed my first 100 mile week. The weight seems to be staying put although I am feeling fitter. I usually do 20-30 mile rides on the road average speed 16-17 mph, and 12-16 mile rides off road. The weight seems to increasing hard to shift this year!
  • flyer
    flyer Posts: 608
    Thanks for the feedback, not as bad as I thought. I just need to keep doing the miles, however there are some real winners on here. I lost 4 stone about 4 years ago and I know how tough it was when I was almost 18 stone. well done to everyone, keep it going.

    Fogliettaz

    I have the same problem, got de-railed last October and thought I would eat myself through winter. As such on went about 10Ib's. Cutting stuff out now but its another hard slog, mile seem to make me fitter but the scales dont seem to agree!!!

    Flyer
  • You sound pretty fit to me mate. I'm 46 and 17stone. Not sure about averages etc but I just completed the Etape Caledonian. Official time was 7hrs 19mins but I ended up going round over half the route with a big guy who was really struggling. If it wasn't for that I reckon my time would have been around an hour less.

    Still we both made it which was good. I'm hoping to lose at least two stones by cycling but hell it's hard work.
    53 & counting
  • russdcycle
    russdcycle Posts: 93
    i'm 45 years old ride for fun. Spin for looking at the talent. My Friday night ride is 38 miles 2 pub stops including a meat raffle average speed i don't care. Leave home at 18.45 return at 23.30 well oiled.

    Isn't that more important as you grow old?
  • woodywmb
    woodywmb Posts: 669
    53 years old and 14st lb2. Dips below 14 after a hard cycle but it just piles back on again. Once upon a time I used to think a Chinese carry-out was one helluva size of a meal. Could never finish it. Now I can get through one easily and then half the wife's - after cycling. :?
  • gareth2134
    gareth2134 Posts: 198
    flyer wrote:
    Having been riding for only 4 years I wondered how fit or more likely unfit I am.

    AGE 50 - Weight 14st 6Ib - Bike - Roubiax Pro - (Only ride to try and keep fit)

    Last year did about 160 miles per week, then did nothing from Nov09 - Feb 10!!!!!

    My data is ave mph on undulating road is 16.8mph over a 40 mile ride and Cadance of 81 and average HR of 131 bpm.

    If you are a similar weight to me it would be interseting to see how unfit I am


    Thanks
    Flyer

    First of all just like to say well done for being 50 and still doing better averages than 25 year olds that I know who have cycled for 3+ years.

    I'm 28 only Road cycled seriously this year, well to be precise I have had 6 rides but have done plenty of mountain biking in the past and lots of spinning classes over the last year.

    But all this has been done with my training partner who is 44 and 14st 9lb he also has been doing similar training to me IE MTB and spinning we average over 40 mile 17mph but feel pretty good for it to, it doesn't feel like we are killing ouselves.

    But he keeps up fine in fact he's been riding bikes in the gym for 20 years and I know theirs no comparison to being outside which he had never done until last year but his leg muscle maturity is so developed due to all the gym cycling that he has great endurance/stamina to sustain long rides in good fashion. I on the other hand have great fitness outside of biking and can do fast speeds on the bike but overall he could sustain it better over a cycle ride of 80 mile because of his muscular maturity in the legs.

    I think biking is not about age but muscular memory and maturity which counts for a lotin this sport.

    well done on your times though.
  • Mastineo
    Mastineo Posts: 182
    46 years here, 144 Kg a few years ago, now 89Kg. Hard work but worth it - eventually.
  • brh77
    brh77 Posts: 242
    105 kg and 6'3"- only get to ride 80km or so per week as I have 3 kids and a long commute- I live in the flats of north herts / south cambs, so average about 17mph.

    Glad I do not live near too many hills as I am sure that gravity would not be kind to me!
  • carrock
    carrock Posts: 1,103
    Slow-N-Old wrote:
    carrock wrote:
    .....

    1000 units of insulin? do you mean 100?

    I'm diabetic and take about 85 units a day- 1000 would kill me very quickly

    How did the docs fix your diabetes exactly?

    Nope i meant 1000 (one thousand) :cry:

    Things were getting worse and the weight was piling on through so much insulin, so they offered me the option of having a gastric bypass, but a modified version which would reduce the amount of food absorbed, within 2 months I was off all insulin and now just take one Metformin a day.


    It's been very hard trying to get enough food inside to cope with the mileage, but I'm getting there now. If you think your eyesight is diminishing and you have other diabetic related conditions such as kidney failure, then don't hesitate to get the op done it saved my life.

    1000 units is like 3 full cartridges per day- were you really taking that many ? :shock:
  • Velonutter
    Velonutter Posts: 2,437
    carrock wrote:
    Slow-N-Old wrote:
    carrock wrote:
    .....

    1000 units of insulin? do you mean 100?

    I'm diabetic and take about 85 units a day- 1000 would kill me very quickly

    How did the docs fix your diabetes exactly?

    Nope i meant 1000 (one thousand) :cry:

    Things were getting worse and the weight was piling on through so much insulin, so they offered me the option of having a gastric bypass, but a modified version which would reduce the amount of food absorbed, within 2 months I was off all insulin and now just take one Metformin a day.


    It's been very hard trying to get enough food inside to cope with the mileage, but I'm getting there now. If you think your eyesight is diminishing and you have other diabetic related conditions such as kidney failure, then don't hesitate to get the op done it saved my life.

    1000 units is like 3 full cartridges per day- were you really taking that many ? :shock:

    I know it seems incredible, I was on 6 injections a day and 3 Humalog 100, 1 Glargine and finally 2 Byetta Exenadine and my counts were still rising to an average of 20+ that is why they operated as a final resort to get me off it all. I had to take 12mm needles as the 8mm did not bury the fluids deep enough and just made the skin blister.

    Now all I rely on is 1 Metformin tablet
  • carrock
    carrock Posts: 1,103
    Slow-N-Old wrote:
    carrock wrote:
    Slow-N-Old wrote:
    carrock wrote:
    .....

    1000 units of insulin? do you mean 100?

    I'm diabetic and take about 85 units a day- 1000 would kill me very quickly

    How did the docs fix your diabetes exactly?

    Nope i meant 1000 (one thousand) :cry:

    Things were getting worse and the weight was piling on through so much insulin, so they offered me the option of having a gastric bypass, but a modified version which would reduce the amount of food absorbed, within 2 months I was off all insulin and now just take one Metformin a day.


    It's been very hard trying to get enough food inside to cope with the mileage, but I'm getting there now. If you think your eyesight is diminishing and you have other diabetic related conditions such as kidney failure, then don't hesitate to get the op done it saved my life.

    1000 units is like 3 full cartridges per day- were you really taking that many ? :shock:

    I know it seems incredible, I was on 6 injections a day and 3 Humalog 100, 1 Glargine and finally 2 Byetta Exenadine and my counts were still rising to an average of 20+ that is why they operated as a final resort to get me off it all. I had to take 12mm needles as the 8mm did not bury the fluids deep enough and just made the skin blister.

    Now all I rely on is 1 Metformin tablet

    I use an average of 1 cartridge ( 300 units) per week of Novorapid, plus a similar amount of nighttime. STill get hypos if i cycle alot or dont eat much. On the other hand, my blood sugar sometimes goes above 15 and occasionally over 25 if i cycle to the pub and forget my insulin.

    Never heard of gastric bypass as a cure for diabetes though