lockrings for fulcrum 10s fw

acidstrato
acidstrato Posts: 945
edited May 2010 in Workshop
8,9,10s shim freewheel on my fulcrum R1s but the lock ring i have doesnt fit the 11t and the right one is pretty dear. so does anybody know the diameter for the ricg needed and whether these token ones would be ok?

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Mode ... elID=38651

i had no idea fulcrum did this? only noticed today as i dont use my ribble much but whilst making sure it was set up correctly earlier i noticed i cant use my 11t gear and this is why. just wish i hadnt fucked up the cable tension i had before i found the problem as it was spot on :(
Crafted in Italy apparantly

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  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    any shimano 11T compatible lock-ring will do.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • acidstrato
    acidstrato Posts: 945
    i wish that were the case

    but the one which came with the ultegra cassette is a completely differen size to the free wheel on the fulcrums
    Crafted in Italy apparantly
  • Monty Dog
    Monty Dog Posts: 20,614
    Depends on freehub body material in a lot of cases - alloy bodies generally take a smaller thread.
    Make mine an Italian, with Campagnolo on the side..
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    Monty Dog
    yes but the OP says it fits
    as i dont use my ribble much but whilst making sure it was set up correctly earlier i noticed i cant use my 11t gear and this is why.
    which to me says that it is not a 11T lockring but one off a different cassette with a bigger bottom cog.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • acidstrato
    acidstrato Posts: 945
    thats right, it is the fulcrum own one supplied with the wheels from new and is designed for a 12t final cog.

    so it basically covers the majority of the surface area of the cog and the chain cannot engage correcly and just jumps up instead as if the cable tuning was wrong


    fulcrum supply the 11t one separately at a cost which i've found 15quid to be the cheapest :shock: so gotta be an alternative surely. just havent got around to check the diameter or thread size yet. got a feeling the token one i linked too may be the right size though
    Crafted in Italy apparantly
  • louismichaels
    louismichaels Posts: 118
    Go for a Token one from Chain Reaction
  • acidstrato
    acidstrato Posts: 945
    yeah that didnt fit, it was exactly same size as original shimano part
    Crafted in Italy apparantly
  • louismichaels
    louismichaels Posts: 118
    I've got Fulcrum Wheels with both the Shimano Freehub and the Campy Freehub; and 11T and 12T sprockets.
    The appropriate Token Lockrings worked just fine.
    One of these must be right!:
    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Sear ... n+Lockring

    Otherwise, contact Jim Walker. I called them about a Fulcrum wheel issue, and they were very helpful
  • acidstrato
    acidstrato Posts: 945
    CRC actually pointed me to their fulcrum spares section and they sell the actual fulcrum part...however its 14.99 and currently out of stock

    the shimano 11t is what I ordered and it was exactly the same as the one that came with my 10sp cassette which have a too large diameter for the racing 1 freehub
    Crafted in Italy apparantly
  • louismichaels
    louismichaels Posts: 118
    Hi Acidstrato,
    I got home from work a bit early today, and decided to dig out my Fulcrum freehub bodies to work out what might be going on.
    I've got three: two Shimano compatible ones and one Campy compatible.
    One of the Shimano bodies came with the wheels. It seems to be the limited production model for when Shimano had their 'high spline compatible' cassettes.
    The second freehub body I bought 2008/2009.
    Weirdly, I found the former freehub body uses a Campy lockring (smaller threaded diameter), and the latter a Shimano lockring (larger threaded diameter) - even though they were both designed for Shimano cassettes.
    I don't know how old your wheels are, but it might be that, oddly, you need a Campy compatible lockring (despite the freehub body being designed to take a Shimano cassette).
    Hope this helps.
  • acidstrato
    acidstrato Posts: 945
    mine are the 2009 model and I'm getting the feeling I've got the 10sp only style one for the 'high spline compatible' cassettes as you put it. so I guess a campy lockring

    just for curioosity purposes as well i measured the 2 different sizes I have, he ultegra lockring is 35mm outer and 28or29mm inner diameter where as the fulcrum one has a 26mm inner but a 38mm outer which is why i cant ride on the 11t

    ahwell got there in the end, thank you all for your assistance, hopefully anyone else that finds this weird issue in the future will come across this thread
    Crafted in Italy apparantly