What Anti-Seize?

dogboy73

As usual the Park stuff seems woefully expensive with Shimano a close second. So will any old anti-seize grease do the job or should we go for the inflated Park stuff?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CARLUBE-COPPER-GR ... 4a9c7d0b79

nicklouse

For what?

general things Coppa slip.

dogboy73

I wanted to get some for disc bolts, seat post, BB.

Any part of the bike that has metal on metal & threaded parts.

abarth_1200

Rotor bolts and caliper bolts need blue loctite to stop them unscrewing and falling out halfway through a ride, pedals need anti seize paste but I wouldnt use anti seize on the seatpost, its messy, regular grease will do less sticky.

Best just to bite the bullet and buy what you need the first time as it will probably last the average home mechanic a long time

dogboy73

abarth_1200 wrote:

Rotor bolts and caliper bolts need blue loctite to stop them unscrewing and falling out halfway through a ride, pedals need anti seize paste but I wouldnt use anti seize on the seatpost, its messy, regular grease will do less sticky.

Best just to bite the bullet and buy what you need the first time as it will probably last the average home mechanic a long time

Cheers.

Can you recommend some loctite? CRC don't seem to have any.

grandad3

As nick said, copper slip is very good, use sparingly it wont attract grit etc.

nicklouse

dogboy73 wrote:

Can you recommend some loctite? CRC don't seem to have any.

Looked in the FAQs?

dogboy73

nicklouse wrote:

dogboy73 wrote:

Can you recommend some loctite? CRC don't seem to have any.

Looked in the FAQs?

Yep. Didn't see anything about anti-seize in there though :roll: Did a search as well. Turned up diddly apart from this thread & a wealth of other completely irrelevent stuff such as 'Thread To Tell Everyone What Fettling You've Just Done', 'used bike buying checklist for dummies?' & this one;

http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtop ... =antiseize

abarth_1200

Go into B&Q or Homebase you will find some near the epoxy and superglue probably, the brand name is Loctite and models name is 242

Link to specs

http://tds.loctite.com/tds5/docs/242-EN.pdf

enjoy!

dogboy73

..... jeez! The more I read, the less I understand! :? I've just read through several threads on here arguing about what to & what not grease & what to of grease to use ..... or not! The debate about whether or not to grease a carbon seatpost in a steel frame is laughably inconclusive & confusing :? F**k it! Think I'll just buy a tube oif Park anti-seize & stick that on everything with a thread. Job done

Thread8

+1 on the copper slip for anti seize, teflon grease for bearings and seatposts, loctite 242 on rotor bolts etc

abarth_1200

Have a look at what is currently on each bolt you take off and replace like for like, if its dry and blue its thread locking fluid so it really needs replaced with thread locker, its there for a reason as well as the carbon paste. If you cant be arsed learning take it to your lbs and get it done right or you will run into problems, I've run into problems especially seatposts and pedals.

dogboy73

abarth_1200 wrote:

Have a look at what is currently on each bolt you take off and replace like for like

Erm, everything is brand new :? It's being fitted for the first time, which is why I'm asking.

abarth_1200

Ahh sorry, thats how I usually learn, by talking things apart.

nicklouse

dogboy73 wrote:

abarth_1200 wrote:

Have a look at what is currently on each bolt you take off and replace like for like

Erm, everything is brand new :? It's being fitted for the first time, which is why I'm asking.

most new stuff now has the required treatment on it already

again have a read of Parktools and Sheldons pages.. for good guides.

dogboy73

nicklouse wrote:

dogboy73 wrote:

abarth_1200 wrote:

Have a look at what is currently on each bolt you take off and replace like for like

Erm, everything is brand new :? It's being fitted for the first time, which is why I'm asking.

Most new stuff now has the required treatment on it already

Now you mention it there was a blue layer around the tops of the threads on the disc bolts that came with the brake kit. Could this be the Blue loctite that was mentioned earlier in the thread maybe?

Matt 24k

I think the OP is getting a bit confused about anti seize compounds and thread lock. They are two different types of product for very different apllications.
Thread lock is generally for threads which may vibrate or work undone if left dry and anti seize is for items that are prone to self locking due to corrosion. So one is for stopping bolts coming loose and the other is to stop assemblies getting stuck.
The reason that there are so many different types of product avialable is that there are thousands of different engineeering applications. A very rough rule of thumb is that a safety application eg disc bolt needs thread lock.
Check to see if there is a manual available from your bike or component manufacturer as it will indicate what bolts need thread locking.

nicklouse

dogboy73 wrote:

nicklouse wrote:

dogboy73 wrote:

abarth_1200 wrote:

Have a look at what is currently on each bolt you take off and replace like for like

Erm, everything is brand new :? It's being fitted for the first time, which is why I'm asking.

Most new stuff now has the required treatment on it already

Now you mention it there was a blue layer around the tops of the threads on the disc bolts that came with the brake kit. Could this be the Blue loctite that was mentioned earlier in the thread maybe?

correct. it is a threadlock of some type.