Campag issues
If only I had known what a pain in the arse campag was i'd have stuck with shimano. The thread on the rear mech cable adjuster has stripped even though its hardly been touched. Trying to find a replacement is like trying to find the holy grail. I've been passed from one supplier to another without success. Then in the space of 4 weeks a link in the the chain has seized up. A new link was fitted the first time. Would have done it myself had the campag tools not been so bloody expensive. And one long term problem is, when the rear mech is plumb in line with the large ring (25T) it makes contact with the spokes when your out of the saddlle or pushing hard. The wheels are rodi airline & a mate of mine has the same problem with a similar set up.
Any help appreciated......
p.s Was told to try Italian Cycle Products but had no joy by either phone or e-mail........
Any help appreciated......
p.s Was told to try Italian Cycle Products but had no joy by either phone or e-mail........
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I'm a long term Campag user, and never had any of those problems!0
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I'm confused?
Ok, so I'm on the "right" side of the religious war (Campag user for way too many years to remember).
But I think we need far more information to understand your situation! What groupset? what speed (10 and 11 have very separate requirements)? Is it new or second hand? Is it a Campag chain or not? What tool are you referring to?
If you can provide more information, you'll get more (constructive) information back.
PS Your mates not giving any first hand information, so their circumstances are irrelevant to what your asking/saying!0 -
Threads don't strip unless they've been forced at some time.
Chain links don't sieze unless they have been miss-treated/left to rot/rust (agreed, the 11 speed chain tool is expensive but you can wait until cheaper versions appear on the market or use a 10 speed Powerlink!)
Rear mechs don't foul rear spokes unless the mech hanger is bent, the stop screw is incorrectly set or the wheels are made of spaghetti!
I've never had any of the problems identified - despite years of "learn as you go" ham-fisted DIY mechanic stuff on both Shimano and Campagnolo gears - I've beep playing with bikes of one sort or another for over 35years!
In short - it sounds very much more likely that it is an operator error than dodgey kit!0 -
If the rear mech is touching the spokes it sounds as if the adjustment is out. I've never stripped a rear adjuster but can eg Chicken cycle not order the part or contact Campag.directly quoting the part number from the pdfs on www.campagnolo.com
The link sounds as tho' it's stiff and may not have been joined correctly or if 11 speed have the correct tools been used in the correct way.
As you can tell by the replies it sounds as if much of the problem is the way the bike has been set up.M.Rushton0 -
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it's a hard life if you don't weaken.0 -
You can always use a Shimano cable adjuster - it has the same thread...
Regardless of what make of components, this sounds like operator failure / poor maintenance. If you don't clean/relube your chain it will go rusty, regardless of make.
You don't need to use a chain tool, just use a SRAM or KMC link.
The rear mech hitting the spokes - sounds like a bent frame hanger as suggested.Make mine an Italian, with Campagnolo on the side..0 -
BTW Italian Cycle Products are no longer trading. For spares, try the very helpful people at Mercian Cycles who seem to have most things you'll ever need (although they can't get Campag to send them any circlips, FC-RE008, that go behind the r/h bearing on Ultartorque crank axles. Grrrrrrrrrr!!)0
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Monty Dog wrote:You can always use a Shimano cable adjuster - it has the same thread....
Not always the case, the 11 speed bolt has a different pitch.
I recently bought a new rear derailleur adjustment bolt RD-AT115. Because after 10 years of constant use in all kinds of weather and on an indoor trainer it gave up.
The replacement appears to be a light alloy, which could easily fatigue (eventually).0 -
Campag centaur 10 speed groupset. Fitted 2009. The chain is lubed on a regular basis & at no point have any of the components been used in an incompetent manor. As for the issue of the rear mech coming into contact with the spokes, my mate has campag veloce with the same wheelset and built up by the same bike builder.
On the chicken cycle front, they gave me a couple of contacts who in turn gave me the italian cycle products. Thats as far as I got on that one.0 -
Campagnolo bits available here:
http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=16125&category=268
That's for the BB parts and circlips.
http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/index.php?category=71
That has derailleur parts, most of which are showing as in stock.
This shop is good - I've had a couple of orders go through with zero fuss at all, quick and accurate. Their shipping costs aren't the world's cheapest to outside the US, but hey, I still saved money on the things I bought compared to buying locally and I didn't even have to get off the damned sofa to do it!Open One+ BMC TE29 Seven 622SL On One Scandal Cervelo RS0 -
Campag is a commitment, I too ride campag and am having problems sourcing a rear mech barrell adjuster for a 08 Centaur mech, mine has also stripped but it is probably because of operator error. to solve the problem I have put an inline adjuster in the cable outer by the bars and used PTFE tape to secure the barrell adjuster in the rear mech, I now have a perfectly adjusted rear mech again (will still try and order a barrell adjuster from somewhere).
The rear mech pinging the spokes sounds like a problem with flex in the rear wheel, so when your putting a lot of pressure through the pedals the rear wheel flexes and the spokes ping agaisnt the mech. It happens on mine as well with my training wheels but when my reace wheels are on the bike I do not get any issues like that.
All said, Campag is great till something goes wrong then it's expensive to fix, Shimano doesn't work as well (IMHO) but is better for the poorer amongst us, as it's cheaper to buy etcObsessed is a word used by the lazy to describe the dedicated!0 -
Just contact the UK distributor. Jim Walker aka http://www.i-ride.co.uk. Simples.
I think barrel adjusters can be found here.
If not find the part number from a Campagnolo manual and contact them. They are helpful and pretty quick on delivery.
Regarding the spoke hitting derailleur. It may be worth setting it up again insuring you follow the steps they provide. Just fitted a new Centaur RD this way and shifting is divine.Up: Wilier Mortirolo
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I'd like to thank the last three posts. Those were the sort of helpful replies I was looking for. Think I may be able to get things moving again.
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proto wrote:BTW Italian Cycle Products are no longer trading. For spares, try the very helpful people at Mercian Cycles who seem to have most things you'll ever need (although they can't get Campag to send them any circlips, FC-RE008, that go behind the r/h bearing on Ultartorque crank axles. Grrrrrrrrrr!!)
condor had some a couple of months ago"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
Thanks for the Condor heads-up, I'll phone tomorrow.
The US site linked has them in stock but wants $4.00 for the part and $28.00 carriage :shock:0 -
proto wrote:Thanks for the Condor heads-up, I'll phone tomorrow.
The US site linked has them in stock but wants $4.00 for the part and $28.00 carriage :shock:
I did warn you their postage charges were a little steep!But if you buy a few things the postage charge doesn't change much, if at all, which brings things down to more reasonable.
Open One+ BMC TE29 Seven 622SL On One Scandal Cervelo RS0 -
Well, I spoke to Condor this morning, firstly a young fellow in the main shop and then a fellow in their service department, and both of them were incredibly helpful. They have them in stock, 99p each. One should be winging its way to me very soon.
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oooh great, I'll order one tomorrowObsessed is a word used by the lazy to describe the dedicated!0
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Re derailleur hitting spokes under load: this is not necessarily due to operator error, a bent derailleur hanger or wheel builder incompetence. I have had similar issues with Dura-Ace 8 speed, where the mounting bolt for the top jockey wheel protrudes just enough from the inside cage plate to lightly touch the spokes under load. This only happens with smaller cassettes (21 or 23t large cog), and is more of a problem with plain 14g spokes which give less clearance than do butted or aero spokes. This wasn't an issue with 6 or 7 speed Dura-Ace (which used basically the same rear mech) as the wheels had less dish and thus more clearance; Shimano changed 9 and 10 speed mechs slightly so this didn't happen.0