Campag 10sp chain - breaking and fixing

Ben6899
Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
edited February 2010 in Workshop
Quick question...

If I break my Campag 10sp chain - as part of moving my gruppo to another frame - am I right in thinking I cannot reuse the same connecting pin?

If so, where can I buy spare pins? Or is there another solution?

Thanks

Ben
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Comments

  • KMC make a reusable link.
    They're very good, you can break and re-join the chain as many times as you like. I have them on both of my bikes, they make cleaning the chian a doddle too.
  • I am currently using a Campag 10 speed chain with a Wipperman Connex Link bought from Wiggle. Had it fitted for about a month, but because of weather not ridden much. Snowing again in the East Riding today.

    John
  • Wappygixer
    Wappygixer Posts: 1,396
    Campag links are very expensive to buy.
    Just use a KMC or similar quick link.
    I've used one for 2 years now with no issues.
  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    Thanks guys.

    I have had a look on Wiggle and the Campag "use once" pins are ~£15, which is slightly ridiculous! I'll check out the KMC and Wipperman options.
    Ben

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  • Wappygixer
    Wappygixer Posts: 1,396
    Make sur eyou get the Camapg version if you can as they are a slightly different width to Shimano.
    Having said that I've been using a Shimano one for 2 years with no issues.
  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    So I've got the KMC Campag 10sp quicklinks. I'll be breaking the chain this afternoon before I take the frame to the LBS for BB facing/tapping/fitting...

    Do I break the chain at the connector pin which I used to fix the chain when I first bought it? Or do I break it at another pin that was already in place in the chain?

    I'm thinking one of the 'normal' pins has to come out because the connector pin has a hole at either end for the guide pin, but I'd like some input.

    Thanks
    Ben

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  • Clem
    Clem Posts: 546
    Yes, you are left with two identical ends of chain - remove two pins - pop the quick link through each either end when you want to rejoin. It really is very easy once you've done it once.

    Just shortened my new Wipperman and, yes, like others here I've had no probs with KMC or other links. There really is no need for the expensive tools and pins Campag and Shimano would have us use.
  • keef66
    keef66 Posts: 13,123
    Shimano recommend you break the chain using one of the normal pins rather than the joining one, but I'm not sure about Campag.

    I use a KMC link on my 105 chain and think it's marvellous.
  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    Thanks guys...

    keef66 wrote:
    Shimano recommend you break the chain using one of the normal pins rather than the joining one, but I'm not sure about Campag.

    Yes, this is what I was getting at... do I break the chain at one (well two) of the normal pins?

    Looking at page 35 of the manual where it talks about reconnecting the chain with the special Campag link, it seems you leave the joining pin well alone.

    http://www.campagnolo.com/repository/do ... -02-08.pdf

    Do you think I'm right in thinking that?
    Ben

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  • Velonutter
    Velonutter Posts: 2,437
    I would break ta the original connecting pin, the KMC links are brilliant and I regularly disconnect to clean my chain.

    The KMC can sometimes be a little fiddly to release, so just gently use a pair of long nose pliers to pushes the rollers together and bingo it falls apart.

    I never use the Campag connecting pin, probably because on the two times I did I buggered them up.
  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    Yes the more I think about it, it's gonna be broken at the original connecting pin. The chain will be the same length so it's just a matter or replacing one link with the KMC.

    It's good to hear positive reports about the KMC.

    If only I had the tools to tap and face my BB shell, I could finish the bike in the next hour or so!
    Ben

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  • John.T
    John.T Posts: 3,698
    If you are using a KMC missing link then it does not matter where you break the chain. If you are using a joining pin for either a Campag or Shimano chain you MUST break the chain away from the original joining pin. The joining pin is slightly thicker than the original so it is a tight fit in the side plate. A second pin in the same hole would not be.
  • Dear Ben,
    Rejoin the chain in a different place to the original joining pin. Campagnolo recommend their own link but you must use the Campag chain tool when using this. Other tools can damage the chains, leading to breakages. The KMC link seems to work well as an alternative. Good luck!
    www.cyclesclements.co.uk
  • Velonutter
    Velonutter Posts: 2,437
    Ben6899 wrote:
    Yes the more I think about it, it's gonna be broken at the original connecting pin. The chain will be the same length so it's just a matter or replacing one link with the KMC.

    It's good to hear positive reports about the KMC.

    If only I had the tools to tap and face my BB shell, I could finish the bike in the next hour or so!

    Ring around mate, I know my local LBS in Wolves did it for me whilst I waited as it only took a couple of minutes just go when it is quiet in the week.
  • Velonutter
    Velonutter Posts: 2,437
    Dear Ben,
    Rejoin the chain in a different place to the original joining pin. Campagnolo recommend their own link but you must use the Campag chain tool when using this. Other tools can damage the chains, leading to breakages. The KMC link seems to work well as an alternative. Good luck!
    www.cyclesclements.co.uk

    Hi,

    Don't understand why you can't remove the original Campag pin and just replace ti with a KMC, I have done it on all my bikes and done 1000's of miles perfectly.

    To be truthful before the chain is split (assuming it is 10 speed) the weakest point is the Campag link, so get rid of that and replace with the KMC and you then haven't added another weak link.

    I don't own a Campag chain splitter, so I just use a couple of nondescript ones and they work perfectly.( Just re-read your post and understand what you are saying IF using another Campag Pin only)

    Please explain your thinking, not Campags, as if it was down to Campag they would have you believe to replace the chain every 500 miles :shock:
  • gbr236
    gbr236 Posts: 393
    But what can you do with an 11speed chain?
  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    Thanks for all the input chaps. My bike is currently at the LBS having the BB shell faced and tapped and the UT cranks fitted. I will have a word in there and see what they usually do - no need to rush into anything...
    Ben

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