SXS mugards rubish what else can I get?

flyer

Just had some fitted to new bike and they look rubish and keep touching the tyre, can anyone advise of some decent ones?

Thanks

Flyer

Anonymous

Crud Roadracer working fine for me, only upto a 25c tyre I think

flanners1

Had to take front piece off mine on the front wheel one as was constantly rubbing no matter what I did, not the end of the world does spray up a bit more than it should. Good product IMO. Getting cheaper ebay had 'em for around £14 del!

redddraggon

SKS are the best.

You either have them set up wrong, or you don't have enough clearance.

pianoman

Well it must be opposites day...........I've actually gone and got some Cruds myself, and wow are they secure! Don't even need the bushes inside the fittings either!

Though I didn't manage to get the inside add-on piece to fit on the rear wheel, at least it at least gives me a useful spare. I can't believe I'm saying this but......Cruds Are GREAT

John.T

PianoMan wrote:

Well it must be opposites day...........I've actually gone and got some Cruds myself, and wow are they secure! Don't even need the bushes inside the fittings either!

Though I didn't manage to get the inside add-on piece to fit on the rear wheel, at least it at least gives me a useful spare. I can't believe I'm saying this but......Cruds Are GREAT

You do need the brushes if you want to keep them intact. They are important to stop the guard catching the tyre.

pianoman

Well I'm not the only one:

Even the presence of the floating brushes lead you to believe that there is guaranteed contact with the rim. Not so. If you're part lucky and part not completely uncordinated, its possible to line the guards up so that they don't rely on the brushes anyway.

I also agree with that person in that the mounting points on the guards will not leap around. Proof if ever it was needed that these guards are strong in the places they need to be yet light and flexible where it is an advantage.

fatandwheezing

I fitted my road-racers at the weekend. Front fitted fine after a minor bit of fiddling, but the front part of the rear just rubs the tyre no matter what I do - cutting it off just before the cable tie should bodge it.

John.T

PianoMan wrote:

Well I'm not the only one:

Even the presence of the floating brushes lead you to believe that there is guaranteed contact with the rim. Not so. If you're part lucky and part not completely uncordinated, its possible to line the guards up so that they don't rely on the brushes anyway.

I also agree with that person in that the mounting points on the guards will not leap around. Proof if ever it was needed that these guards are strong in the places they need to be yet light and flexible where it is an advantage.

Well, Pete from Crud says they are essential (on this site but I can not find it now) and as he designed them I prefer to believe him. You paid for yours so you can do as you like. Just don't knock the product if it goes pear shaped. And do not advise others to do bodge jobs.

pianoman

SKS are the best.

You either have them set up wrong, or you don't have enough clearance.

Surely all bikes have enough clearance for Race Blades, even if the rubber stays are a bit temperamental on certain width forks? Then again, I only ever tried a Race Blade clone, namely the Tortec one, so that's why I switched to the Cruds, thinking that a completely different design might suit my bike better (though part of the problem was me losing two of the rubber grippers for the front guard) :shock:

There's also stories of other people cutting their Cruds at points where one of the pieces rub the tyres, and adding washers to achieve different shapes (shock horror), so obviously the Cruds are quite adaptable in terms of which parts you use - I managed to get all parts on except for the "inside" piece on the rear wheel. Still, it's more coverage than the race blade clones ever gave. Also, I'm clearly not the only one who has adjusted the setup of the Cruds to fit my bike correctly.

Is it possible I put the bushes in the wrong place? The guide seems to suggest they go where the guard itself meets the support next to the wheel rim and tyre. Is it just trial and error from there? There semed to be more contact with the bushes than without.

redddraggon

PianoMan wrote:

SKS are the best.

You either have them set up wrong, or you don't have enough clearance.

Surely all bikes have enough clearance for Race Blades, even if the rubber stays are a bit temperamental on certain width forks?

flyer wrote:

Just had some fitted to new bike and they look rubish and keep touching the tyre, can anyone advise of some decent ones?

Thanks

Flyer

No mention of Race Blades. I assumed Chromoplastics, which is what most people refer to when talking about SKS mudguards.

Race blades are a waste of space, so I wouldn't expect anyone to waste their money on them anyway.

John.T

The brushes go on the stays so they will contact the rims if the guards are deflected for any reason. Mine do not actually touch when I just spin the wheel but I have no idea if they do while riding which is just what is intended.

The OP was I think refering to SKS full mudguards which are much more of a problem to fit if you have close clearances. In many cases impossible. Crud Raceguards are the next best but they still require 4mm under the fork crown and brake bridge. The curve on some brakes can also give problems. They do give better coverage (and IMO are more secure) than Raceblades. Unfortunately unless your bike is built with proper guard clearance everything will involve compromises.

flyer

Thanks for the info.

I bought a Specialized Sirrus yesterday just for winter fitness and the bike shop fitted SKS XL's.


http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/cycle/7/SKS_R ... 360013199/

However they are not very solid and seem to move/slip very easy! I can't see any "brushes" but then again I just collected the bike with them on it!

Any advise or alternatives appreciated

Thanks

Flyer

alfablue

flyer wrote:

Thanks for the info.

I bought a Specialized Sirrus yesterday just for winter fitness and the bike shop fitted SKS XL's.


http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/cycle/7/SKS_R ... 360013199/

However they are not very solid and seem to move/slip very easy! I can't see any "brushes" but then again I just collected the bike with them on it!

Any advise or alternatives appreciated

Thanks

Flyer

I don't think the bike shop treated you very well (unless you specified that you wanted this sort of guard), the conventional full SKS mudguards should fit, are more secure, and are cheaper. The SKS P35 Chromoplastics would fit tyres up to 28mm, if you want larger then P45 fit up to 37. Raceblades are only the right answer if you can't fit a full guard.

John.T

+1 with alfablue. Normal SKS full guards will fit a Sirrus. My son's has them on. These are what you should have had fitted. Depending on what the shop told you I would be complaining and trying to get the right ones fitted.
Re the 'brushes'. These are only on the Crud Raceguards that somehow crept into this thread.

trig1

Im getting on fine with raceblades, i plastic tied them on top of the rubber too and theyre rock solid. I would nt say they were a waste of space...

alfablue

trig1 wrote:

Im getting on fine with raceblades, i plastic tied them on top of the rubber too and theyre rock solid. I would nt say they were a waste of space...

I have them on my Planet X, they are okay once fitted, bit of a faff, but def better than without, though the protection they offer is a lot less than full guards. On my audax and touring bikes that do have proper clearances, then full SKS Chromoplastics are much better, in fact, they are the very best you can get, so if a bike can take them,they are the best choice, if it can't, then probably Raceblades or Crud Raceguards (probably the latter).