Diff between integrated and standard headset??????????

prb007
prb007 Posts: 703
edited January 2010 in Workshop
Just bought this off Planet X........

http://www.planet-x-warehouse.co.uk/wp- ... e1200b.jpg

and it has a 'standard' headtube.

My old Kooka Carba (for sale in classifieds!) has the integrated type h/s.
May seem like a daft question, but will i be able to fit a std. headset to my old
forks? Will the bottom crown race be the same size as standard?
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  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    If you get a Chris King (best choice for a standard headset) you'll have to use the CK crown race.
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  • Scrumple
    Scrumple Posts: 2,665
    clear as mud that link.... isn't it to do with the way the head tube is made - from a seperate bit of gubbins?

    Integrated makes the bike heavier - more metal - but stiffer????

    A brief layman summary would be good cos I never quite got my head round it when I bought mine!
  • balthazar
    balthazar Posts: 1,565
    Scrumple wrote:
    clear as mud that link.... isn't it to do with the way the head tube is made - from a seperate bit of gubbins?

    Integrated makes the bike heavier - more metal - but stiffer????

    A brief layman summary would be good cos I never quite got my head round it when I bought mine!
    There isn't really any practical consequence –for the rider– from the different designs of headset; it's when you need to replace a part of one that you wish there weren't so many different types. I'm sticking with standard threadless for as long as I can.

    BTW mmacavity - you might want to forewarn people that that's a 5MB pdf. Big pdf's can be browser-crashy.
  • Buckled_Rims
    Buckled_Rims Posts: 1,648
    balthazar wrote:
    BTW mmacavity - you might want to forewarn people that that's a 5MB pdf. Big pdf's can be browser-crashy.

    It's not the size, it's the speed of the transfer...it's slow at 22.5 KB/s.
    You could just right click the link and "save content as.." onto your desktop.

    Good details though a bit too technical :wink:
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  • Monty Dog
    Monty Dog Posts: 20,614
    If new and old headsets both use the same size of cartridge bearing, then yes - the problem arises if you mix a Campagnolo, 45 degree chamfer with a Cane Creek with 36 degree chamfer on the bearing. Take the new bearing and slip it over the crown race to see if it 'seats' properly.
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  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    prb007 wrote:
    Will the bottom crown race be the same size as standard?

    as long as the fork steerer is the same diameter as the one designed for the new frame. EG. 1 1/8" yes the new crown race will fit on your old fork.
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