help with juicy 5's please

matt748

Hi,
1st, I should say that I am ' Wiggy the mechanic' so feel free to shoot me down in flames. I've started to try and do work on my bike to save money at the lbs, but at this rate it could end up costing me more.
Anyway, my problem:
Changing the original brake pads to some superstar ones today. The only way I could get the new pads to fit was to take out the silver clip thing on the opposite side of the caliper.
Trouble is, now the pads are in, the silver clip won't go back in. Should this be in place before the pads go in?
Does it have to be taken off at all, and what does it do?
Even managed to scrape a load of paint off the frame with my disc putting the rear wheel back on. :roll:
Thanks in advance
Matt

nicklouse

it does not need to be removed.

it holds the pads in place.

rubins4

Not sure what you mean about it not needing to be removed nicklouse, it comes out when you take the pads out, or at least shifts position making it almost impossible to replace the pads without taking it out?

I took the pads and clip out, fitted the new pads over/into the clip and slid the whole lot back into the caliper. Its a bit of a fiddle getting the second pad into place, but I managed ok. I can get some pics of the process if you require Matt.

btw... I'm not saying this is the 'tech manual' method, but has worked for me!

matt748

OK thanks for the replies chaps.
Rubins, pics would be great thanks:

Just to make things clear, I'm not talking about the 'sandwich' clip that comes with a new set of pads, but the clip on the other side of the caliper. It looks like a squared off jubilee clip is the best way I can describe it, that clips in on the backside of the caliper.

Thanks

nicklouse

rubins4 wrote:

Not sure what you mean about it not needing to be removed nicklouse, it comes out when you take the pads out, or at least shifts position making it almost impossible to replace the pads without taking it out?

I took the pads and clip out, fitted the new pads over/into the clip and slid the whole lot back into the caliper. Its a bit of a fiddle getting the second pad into place, but I managed ok. I can get some pics of the process if you require Matt.

btw... I'm not saying this is the 'tech manual' method, but has worked for me!

the metal retainer he is on about is not the pad spring, which does come out.

shefbiker

i run superstar pads in juicy 5s and have had a similar issue. I just took the pad retaining clip out of the caliper and opened it up a bit so that it fitted comfortably onto the top of the pads. You can trial this with it all out of the caliper. Then refit the pad retaining clip and pads in to the caliper. Sometimes they need a bit of a tap in, with a finger keeping the pad retaining clip in place!

i hope this helps.

sniper68

I've had juicy 5s,juicy 7s and juicy ultimates over the last 5 years.i ran superstar pads in all of them.You don't have to touch the retainer.Just push the pistons back take out the pads,sandwich the new ones and push them in until they click.Takes about 30 seconds.I've done it on the trail in wet/mud and snow its a piece of pi$$.Its even easier if you remove the calliper from the frame so the adaptor mount isn't in the way,which was my preferred method at home.
The only pads i had a problem with a Fibrax which needed the edges filing down a bit to fit in the calliper

rubins4

nicklouse wrote:

the metal retainer he is on about is not the pad spring, which does come out.

Ahhhh... I'm with you now...that metal clip....

I have only taken the original pads out to have a little clean up and put them back in again, rather than fit aftermarket pads and didnt have any trouble, so any pics I could take would be of no use, good luck with it. Where did you get the pads from out of interest?

matt748

rubins4 wrote:

good luck with it. Where did you get the pads from out of interest?

From here: pads

Thanks for all the advice on this.
Was -1 again in my garage so couldn't even feel my hands to work. Went down my local Halfords and the chap there sorted it. Just needed a bit more pressure with pliers than what I was was doing with my thumb. Least I know for next time. And cheers nicklouse, you're spot on about the clip.
I know Halfords get a slaggin on here (from me too) but the chap today couldn't have been more helpful. Credit where it's due.

Matt

rubins4

Thanks Matt! glad you got it all sorted.

steelo

If you have the larger disc on the back, and the bike is a Trek Fuel EX as it appears in the picture then yeah the disc hitting the frame is bl**dy annoying. Luckily I put some frame tape around the chainstays so only that has been damaged on mine so far. I also changed the rear disc to a smaller one!