Zipp decisions

CAB SLC
CAB SLC Posts: 34
edited December 2009 in Road buying advice
Going to invest in some zipp tubs next year - do a fair amount of riding on rolling roads but also intend to do some big sportives incluide the etape next year. Was heading towards a pair of 202s but just looked at the difference in weight between them and the 404's......

Could naybody give a view on how different the 202s compare to the 404s when it comes to climbing??

would ordinarilly organise a test ride but nobody seems to let you test the 202's.... !

Many thanks

CAB
Cervelo - aero tubing looks awesome but i am sure it makes bugger all differnce to performance!

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    CAB SLC wrote:
    Going to invest in some zipp tubs next year - do a fair amount of riding on rolling roads but also intend to do some big sportives incluide the etape next year. Was heading towards a pair of 202s but just looked at the difference in weight between them and the 404's......

    Could naybody give a view on how different the 202s compare to the 404s when it comes to climbing??

    would ordinarilly organise a test ride but nobody seems to let you test the 202's.... !

    Many thanks

    CAB

    I haven't ridden the 202s but I personally think you would get more benefit from the 404s in general. The weight penalty is small yet at a decent pace the improvement in speed is ace! I have a 404 front and 808 rear.

    One other thing to consider though is that the 202s will not suffer as much in a crosswind.
  • CAB SLC
    CAB SLC Posts: 34
    NapoleonD wrote:
    CAB SLC wrote:
    Going to invest in some zipp tubs next year - do a fair amount of riding on rolling roads but also intend to do some big sportives incluide the etape next year. Was heading towards a pair of 202s but just looked at the difference in weight between them and the 404's......

    Could naybody give a view on how different the 202s compare to the 404s when it comes to climbing??

    would ordinarilly organise a test ride but nobody seems to let you test the 202's.... !

    Many thanks

    CAB

    I haven't ridden the 202s but I personally think you would get more benefit from the 404s in general. The weight penalty is small yet at a decent pace the improvement in speed is ace! I have a 404 front and 808 rear.

    One other thing to consider though is that the 202s will not suffer as much in a crosswind.

    Thanks - the maths would indicate i should go for 303s ... but for some reason they dont appeal .... no idea why!!
    Cervelo - aero tubing looks awesome but i am sure it makes bugger all differnce to performance!
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    You'll be far more popular in a bunch on a windy day if you plump for the 202s.
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  • Monty Dog
    Monty Dog Posts: 20,614
    I wouldn't buy Zipps period - there are cheaper, stronger and more reliable wheels out there where your money pays for the wheels, not the marketing hype and sponsorship. Everyone I know with Zipps has had a major problem at some stage - broken rims, knackered hubs, not holding true. Look on Weightweenies for informed opinions - generally from people who've ridden them, not read a catalogue.
    Make mine an Italian, with Campagnolo on the side..
  • sub55
    sub55 Posts: 1,025
    i`ve got some zipps, perfectly happy with them . build quality is spot on.

    so i`m the first person you`ve spoken to without a problem.
    constantly reavalueating the situation and altering the perceived parameters accordingly
  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    ^^^--- What he said.


    And I'm a fat bast*rd.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    sub55 wrote:
    i`ve got some zipps, perfectly happy with them . build quality is spot on.

    so i`m the first person you`ve spoken to without a problem.

    I'm a third too.

    Very impressed with everything about them!
  • cal_stewart
    cal_stewart Posts: 1,840
    can someone tell me do all zipp's sound like sh@t. its just all zipps i've rode near have had a nasty freehub noise.
    eating parmos since 1981

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  • akkers
    akkers Posts: 140
    NapoleonD wrote:
    sub55 wrote:
    i`ve got some zipps, perfectly happy with them . build quality is spot on.

    so i`m the first person you`ve spoken to without a problem.

    I'm a third too.

    Very impressed with everything about them!

    +1

    Love my Zipps....I have the 303s and they're great. Build is solid and they look great too.
  • northpole
    northpole Posts: 1,499
    I see that Merlin have ducked below the £800 mark for Dura-ace 50mm carbon clinchers and was wondering what do the Zipp wheels offer which differentiates them to a higher level than the DA's?

    Genuine question - not a wind up.

    Peter
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    northpole wrote:
    I see that Merlin have ducked below the £800 mark for Dura-ace 50mm carbon clinchers and was wondering what do the Zipp wheels offer which differentiates them to a higher level than the DA's?

    Genuine question - not a wind up.

    Peter

    Good price!

    The only thing with the DA clinchers is the weight. The hubs are excellent.

    That said, Zipp clinchers are nearly as heavy!
  • CAB SLC
    CAB SLC Posts: 34
    Monty Dog wrote:
    I wouldn't buy Zipps period - there are cheaper, stronger and more reliable wheels out there where your money pays for the wheels, not the marketing hype and sponsorship. Everyone I know with Zipps has had a major problem at some stage - broken rims, knackered hubs, not holding true. Look on Weightweenies for informed opinions - generally from people who've ridden them, not read a catalogue.

    what did you have in mind specifically?? Assuming what ever you have in mind comes into a similar weight???



    Thanks CAB
    Cervelo - aero tubing looks awesome but i am sure it makes bugger all differnce to performance!
  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    edited December 2009
    northpole wrote:
    What do the Zipp wheels offer which differentiates them to a higher level than the DA's?


    Dimples. It's ALL about the dimples.
  • rokkala
    rokkala Posts: 649
    Had been looking around at some deep section wheels for myself, if you're wanting the Zipp 404 tubular wheelset, i found them at £999.

    Would get them myself but dont have any plans on racing really, so cant be arsed with tubulars.

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