Need new tyres.

freehub
freehub Posts: 4,257
edited December 2009 in Workshop
Looking for a decent tyre, that's not a downgrade from Krylions and that does not cost much more. Krylions are not in stock in many places and my rear has a large split in it now, loads of little cuts, and had plenty of punctures, sure sign the quality of these tyres has reduced.

I've noticed this cut in my tyre, not massive, looks abit worse when you see it for yourself, it's down to the thread, and it appears to buldge a little.

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Is it safe to ride on that? Is it likely to cause a puncture?

Thanks
Will.
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  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    The new Conti Gatorskins? Vittoria Rubino Pro?

    Running your tyres pressures as high as you do increases the chances of you getting these cuts by the way.

    Schwable Marathon Plus are bombproof though
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  • Monty Dog
    Monty Dog Posts: 20,614
    I couldn't find any Krylions in 25mm at a decent price but have managed to get some Schwalbe Stelvios in 25mm - be interesting to see how they perform. I think with many makers are taking the pi$$ with tyre prices - £32 for a training tyre that could be binned in one ride is a joke - adding a puncture proof belt to the Gatorskin which cuts too easily, has so-so grip and then doubling the price - go figure.
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Vittoria Open Paves.

    You know it makes sense.

    On your bike they will look perfect too. Proper Pro Paris Roubaix like.

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  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    NapoleonD wrote:
    Vittoria Open Paves.

    You know it makes sense.

    On your bike they will look perfect too. Proper Pro Paris Roubaix like.

    You know Will right?

    He pumps his tyres up to like 140psi - as soon as glass goes near the Open Paves they'll be shredded.
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    NapoleonD wrote:
    Vittoria Open Paves.

    You know it makes sense.

    On your bike they will look perfect too. Proper Pro Paris Roubaix like.

    You know Will right?

    He pumps his tyres up to like 140psi - as soon as glass goes near the Open Paves they'll be shredded.

    WTF?!?

    I run mine at 120 and they are plenty hard enough, and I weigh 90kg!

    He needs some solid rubber ones.
  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    NapoleonD wrote:
    I run mine at 120 and they are plenty hard enough, and I weigh 90kg!

    You're not Will though. I run my Tyres 90fr 100r and don't have the same issues that everyone else seems to have with spontaneously shredding and puncturing tyres. Apparantly Will thinks 90/100 feels soft.
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  • JimmyK
    JimmyK Posts: 712
    only tyres i buy are continental ultragatorskin 23`s. 120psi at the front and 115 psi at the rear. last set i had lasted me 3000 miles without a single puncture. you just cant argue with that. wiggle were selling them for 15 quid a tyre, bargain of the century !!

    anybody who pumps a tyre to 140 psi and goes out on it may as well be begging for punctures.

    Jimmy
  • Bhima
    Bhima Posts: 2,145
    140? Jeez!

    I didn't even run my 19mm ones anywhere near that (the minimum recommended pressure)...!

    Yeah, pressure makes a huge difference!

    Recently, i've been running some really fragile 24mm racing tyres at 60 PSI over wet cobbles and all kinds of dirt without punctures. Pumped them up to 100 yesterday (for stability/control when on rollers) and got taken out by the puncture fairy on a smooth dry road within 10 minutes. It was some kind of cutting from a hedge that did it - I can't believe how much damage it did too! I was going over gravel and sharp glass in the wet a few days before without issues!
  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    140psi was a wind up.

    He runs them at 115psi, which I still reckon is a bit high for his weight
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  • i'm 95kg, i ran my pro 3race at 85 and 90 f&r wtf is this high pressure lark it feels horrible.

    I'm down to 60psi on my 32mm cx tyres on the road.
  • gabriel959
    gabriel959 Posts: 4,227
    If my tyres are anywhere below the 100psi mark I get more punctures.
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  • freehub
    freehub Posts: 4,257
    i'm 95kg, i ran my pro 3race at 85 and 90 f&r wtf is this high pressure lark it feels horrible.

    I'm down to 60psi on my 32mm cx tyres on the road.

    Personal Preference, low pressure feels sluggish to me.
  • GavH
    GavH Posts: 933
    Conti GP4000S - 100fr/120rr not a single puncture and only the smallest of indentations in the rubber so far. Even rode over a length of barbed wire today that I didn't see until the last second and they survived unscathed, although that may be becuase I missed the barbs!!
  • freehub
    freehub Posts: 4,257
    They're expensive though, 31 quid a tyre, and the ones I had got loads of cuts in, has the quality changed?
  • rake
    rake Posts: 3,204
    Monty Dog wrote:
    I couldn't find any Krylions in 25mm at a decent price but have managed to get some Schwalbe Stelvios in 25mm - be interesting to see how they perform. I think with many makers are taking the pi$$ with tyre prices - £32 for a training tyre that could be binned in one ride is a joke - adding a puncture proof belt to the Gatorskin which cuts too easily, has so-so grip and then doubling the price - go figure.
    ive used a few sets ofv these.they are tough puncture wise.the only thing that got em was a fresh chipped road when they were well worn.they seem well cut resistant too.
  • markos1963
    markos1963 Posts: 3,724
    Vittoria Rubinos, less than £10 a tyre from Wiggle. I run mine at 100f/110r and have had no punc%$£es in over 1000 miles on really crap country roads. Nice colours as well.
  • freehub
    freehub Posts: 4,257
    So in the picture, is that tyre safe to ride on?
  • paul_or
    paul_or Posts: 156
    I'd reinforce the recommendation for Conti Ultragatorskins. I have 700x23's on my 09 Orbea Aqua, which is running a pair of American Classics Victory wheels. I run both at 100psi, on rural Suffolk roads, and have not suffered a flat this year** or last winter. Prior to that I had std fit Vittoria's which shredded in a matter of months.

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  • Infamous
    Infamous Posts: 1,130
    Nice sock.

    Will you should get some veloflex records and lightweight tubes, then you can go 0.1 mph faster in december.
  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    Infamous wrote:
    Nice sock.

    Quality
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    Infamous wrote:
    Will you should get some veloflex records and lightweight tubes, then you can go 0.1 mph faster in december.

    Veloflex Records will be too expensive. I think Ideally he'd like someone else to buy him some tyres though.
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  • freehub
    freehub Posts: 4,257
    They're my fav socks, green, red, blue, good for tucking my jeans into for riding the bike.

    What are peoples impressions on these compared to Krylions?

    http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/productde ... ITTTYRF610
  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    freehub wrote:
    What are peoples impressions on these compared to Krylions?

    http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/productde ... ITTTYRF610

    Pretty good.
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  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    I run my Krylions at 120PSI. My Vittoria Open Corsa Evo CX on my Zipps at 140. But they are race wheels and tyres.


    Will - if the tube is bulging out through the tyre tread, then it's not safe to ride. Can you actually SEE the tube? If so, it'll just go get cut easier. If the rubber is split but not all the way to the tube you can still ride it.

    I have 2 sets of Krylions - the all black ones - and have done thousands of miles on them. The odd flat, but very rarely. Would look around and fine some more if I were you.
  • freehub
    freehub Posts: 4,257
    Open-Pave Evo CG are far too expensive, I also notive they look rather thin? Like my Open Corsa's that I've only done like 50 miles on.
  • Scrumple
    Scrumple Posts: 2,665
    edited December 2009
    Is that 50?

    Or like 50?

    Or like, you know like, kinda like, 50 or something, or like, you know like ?
  • freehub
    freehub Posts: 4,257
    Scrumple wrote:
    Is that 50?

    Or like 50?

    Or like, you know like, kinda like, 50 or something, or like, you know like ?

    It's pretty obvious.

    So anyone else have any opinion on those Rubino Pro 3's compared to Krylions?
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    freehub wrote:
    Scrumple wrote:
    Is that 50?

    Or like 50?

    Or like, you know like, kinda like, 50 or something, or like, you know like ?

    It's pretty obvious.

    So anyone else have any opinion on those Rubino Pro 3's compared to Krylions?

    Why don't you try some and let us know?
  • freehub
    freehub Posts: 4,257
    NapoleonD wrote:
    freehub wrote:
    Scrumple wrote:
    Is that 50?

    Or like 50?

    Or like, you know like, kinda like, 50 or something, or like, you know like ?

    It's pretty obvious.

    So anyone else have any opinion on those Rubino Pro 3's compared to Krylions?

    Why don't you try some and let us know?

    I can't afford to waste money.... Not everyone can treat money like it grows on trees.
  • Rubino Pros are exceptionally solid training tyres - I don't think you can really fault them on any count, and I don't think any of the alternatives (Krylion, Durano, Gatorskin) come close to it on price. If the 3 is an improvement on the old version, all the better. You certainly won't be wasting your money with them!