Any got an Orange Alpine 160 or Blood frame weight

MarkTe Posts: 6
edited November 2009 in MTB buying advice
I've got an Orange Patriot and I am thinking of replacing the frame for the shorter travel Alpine 160 or possibly Blood, as it is a little too heavy for the my current riding tastes.

But although everywhere talks about the Alpine 160 being lighter has anyone actually weighed it so I can compare it to my Patriot (ideally without shock, but with is OK).

One option I have is to fit an air shock and run the Patriot lower, to achieve very similar geometry to the Alpine - the Patriot has adjustable geometry.