New Garmin Cadence v Heartrate

14tod
14tod Posts: 13
edited November 2009 in Road beginners
Ok just got a new garmin 705 to assist with training and getting the most out of my Dolan.

Not much in the way of instruction / tuition in the manual.

I am currently averaging 74rpm and around 150bpm on a 15mile 47min ride. few hills but nothing exciting.

I cant seem to find anything that shows the both together and whats best for base layer, weight loss or endurance training.

I want to do all three but wish to know which if any I am doing.
Help
Dolan Aurora, Mavic Kysrium Elite wheels, Ultegra group.
Cinelli palm bars.

Comments

  • REF123
    REF123 Posts: 13
    Good luck w the 705.
    Great bike computer/GPS but the learning curve to the thing is steeper than a cliff.
    Expect to learn it mostly thru trial and error because Garmin doesn't make any of it easy, believe me.
    I can't answer all of your questions, due to time constraints, but I'm sure many will and all answers can be found online as well.
    First of all, try to keep your cadence around 90 - 100 by gearing lower and spinning.
    To best use the HR monitor you have to either find your Max HR or your Lactate Threshold HR.
    You can set up your HR zones based on either one of these numbers... although LT is better.
    (again... look online for how to find these numbers and what the averages are for the HR zones)
    Once you know either one of them you can begin training w more accuracy.
  • fluided
    fluided Posts: 114
    this site is really good for info hope this helps

    http://frank.kinlan.co.uk

    the 705 is a great bit of kit I use mine everyday :lol:
  • 14tod
    14tod Posts: 13
    Thanks or the quick responses.

    Franklinlan seems too helpfull now. Ive spent quite a while wading through though and he has answered some of my questions. I consider myself qute good with most gadgets, and between to Frank and Garmin I think Im getting there.
    Its just the settings to use, hopefully with the right search parameters now ill be able to find what I want.

    cheers again
    Dolan Aurora, Mavic Kysrium Elite wheels, Ultegra group.
    Cinelli palm bars.
  • oldwelshman
    oldwelshman Posts: 4,733
    REF123 wrote:
    Good luck w the 705.
    Great bike computer/GPS but the learning curve to the thing is steeper than a cliff.
    Expect to learn it mostly thru trial and error because Garmin doesn't make any of it easy, believe me.
    I can't answer all of your questions, due to time constraints, but I'm sure many will and all answers can be found online as well.
    First of all, try to keep your cadence around 90 - 100 by gearing lower and spinning.
    To best use the HR monitor you have to either find your Max HR or your Lactate Threshold HR.
    You can set up your HR zones based on either one of these numbers... although LT is better.
    (again... look online for how to find these numbers and what the averages are for the HR zones)
    Once you know either one of them you can begin training w more accuracy.

    There is no need for the op to increase his cadence. It will differ for individuals and there is no "optimal" cadence.
    As the op rides more then he will find his natural cadence. The cadence readout on the garmin is ok for reference but no need to get all hooked up and obsessed with it.
    HR cane be useful for training but often the gadgets can just be a distraction. Depends on the individual.
    I just use mine to watch my HR and to record mileagge, that it.
  • hodsgod
    hodsgod Posts: 226
    REF123 wrote:
    Good luck w the 705.
    Great bike computer/GPS but the learning curve to the thing is steeper than a cliff.
    Expect to learn it mostly thru trial and error because Garmin doesn't make any of it easy, believe me.
    I can't answer all of your questions, due to time constraints, but I'm sure many will and all answers can be found online as well.
    First of all, try to keep your cadence around 90 - 100 by gearing lower and spinning.
    To best use the HR monitor you have to either find your Max HR or your Lactate Threshold HR.
    You can set up your HR zones based on either one of these numbers... although LT is better.
    (again... look online for how to find these numbers and what the averages are for the HR zones)
    Once you know either one of them you can begin training w more accuracy.

    There is no need for the op to increase his cadence. It will differ for individuals and there is no "optimal" cadence.
    As the op rides more then he will find his natural cadence. The cadence readout on the garmin is ok for reference but no need to get all hooked up and obsessed with it.
    HR cane be useful for training but often the gadgets can just be a distraction. Depends on the individual.
    I just use mine to watch my HR and to record mileagge, that it.

    I agree about the cadence, I can keep 80 for hours and maintain comfortable cruising speed as a friend who spins at around 100. You have to find your own cadence.
  • nferrar
    nferrar Posts: 2,511
    Cadence average doesn't really tell you anything meaningful

    Heart rate - you're best off Googling about HR training zones, there's a fair amount of conflicting opinion on what zones are best to train in for what results you're after though. Personally I'd aim for some variety, don't always train in the same zone.

    I have a 705 to and haven't bothered remounting my cadence sensor after it worked loose and I had to cut it off during a ride, it's more a novelty IMO knowing what cadence you're doing. Possibly if you're coming back from a knee injury or something it might be useful if you want to ensure you're spinning a gear rather than grinding away.
    I also usually don't bother (or forget) to use the HR monitor either, basically as I'm mostly riding atm rather than training so just ride on feel and kill myself on the hills etc. (as opposed to trying to stick rigidly to a training zone plan).

    Unless you're planning on racing next year I'd just mix up your riding and do some steady miles and some harder ones (or at least steady rides with hard riding intervals in it). Also tagging along on club runs is a good way of getting out of your comfort zone and you often end up staying out longer than if just out by yourself.