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Will a shorter stem put my weight further back ?

Darra8Darra8 Posts: 721
edited November 2009 in MTB general
I have a new bike and struggle with rear wheel traction when climbing, as I have to stand up and peddle, and can't get enough weight over the rear end. I currently have a 90mm stem, If I fit a shorter one, say 60mm, will this help :?:
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  • Shortening the stem will just make you sit slightly more upright I think

    Have you tried just moving the saddle a bit further back on the rails? Maybe getting a layback seatpost if you dont already have one.

    REmember, you dont want to go too far back or you'll have a problem keeping the front wheel down.

    Also, what tyres are you using and at what PSI, this all has an effect on rear wheel grip too.
  • nicklousenicklouse Posts: 81,520 Lives Here
    not really.

    try a lower cog seated and spin.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
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  • robertpbrobertpb Posts: 1,866
    The only way to keep the power smooth so keeping grip is to stay in the saddle.

    Once you stand on the pedals the weight moves forward, the power becomes ragged and you're burning more power than you need.

    Sit down spin and keep it smooth.
    Now where's that "Get Out of Crash Free Card"
  • Sir HCSir HC Posts: 20,148
    When you are standing up, you will tend to move your body over the bars, so the rear doesn't have as much weight on it, so stay seated and pedal smoother in an easier gear ratio, to keep spinning.
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  • He is actually talking about a rigid singlespeed. Asked the same question in a thread about 2 below this one.
    So shifting down and spinning out is not an option.
  • nicklousenicklouse Posts: 81,520 Lives Here
    a short stem in that case will just move everything closer to his knees when out of the saddle which can cause more problems.

    again OP give the full story.
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  • Darra8Darra8 Posts: 721
    Sorry, yes forgot to say that I am on a single speed, so sitting is not an option at the moment. I have a 16/32 setup at the moment, but I am looking into an 18t freewheel to try and ease the hill climbs...

    Cheers,

    Steve
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  • nicklousenicklouse Posts: 81,520 Lives Here
    before changing the 16 you need to try moving your censored forward on the saddle to keep traction.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
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  • Darra8Darra8 Posts: 721
    I can't physically sit down and peddle when going up hill, it's just too dam hard :cry:
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  • supersonicsupersonic Posts: 82,708 Lives Here
    I think you need gears ;-)
  • nicklousenicklouse Posts: 81,520 Lives Here
    Darra8 wrote:
    I can't physically sit down and peddle when going up hill, it's just too dam hard :cry:

    it will take time to get the muscles.

    if you cant ride it walk it.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • Darra8Darra8 Posts: 721
    supersonic wrote:
    I think you need gears ;-)

    No way man, I'm sticking with it 8)
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  • AnonymousAnonymous Posts: 79,692
    Darra8 wrote:
    supersonic wrote:
    I think you need gears ;-)

    No way man, I'm sticking with it 8)
    Well you're a bloody idiot then.

    If you insist on riding with only one gear, then learn to shift your weight around the bike, and pedal smoothly. There's no reason you can;t do that whilst standing.
    But then, why would a singlespeeder be any good at actual mountain bike skills? :roll:
  • Darra8Darra8 Posts: 721
    Well you're a bloody idiot then.

    If you insist on riding with only one gear, then learn to shift your weight around the bike, and pedal smoothly. There's no reason you can;t do that whilst standing.
    But then, why would a singlespeeder be any good at actual mountain bike skills? :roll:

    Your like, well harsh man :)

    I don't see that there is anything wrong wanting to try something a little different, even if it is bloody hard work :!:
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  • AnonymousAnonymous Posts: 79,692
    you decided to get a bike with one gear, then comes moaning about not being able to get up hills. I don;t think I'm being harsh at all. A bit soft, if anything.
  • colintravcolintrav Posts: 1,074
    edited October 2009
    Darra8 wrote:
    I have a new bike and struggle with rear wheel traction when climbing, as I have to stand up and peddle, and can't get enough weight over the rear end. I currently have a 90mm stem, If I fit a shorter one, say 60mm, will this help :?:


    Edit ................

    Why don't you take one of the seats from your other bikes
  • colintravcolintrav Posts: 1,074
    Darra8 wrote:
    supersonic wrote:
    I think you need gears ;-)

    No way man, I'm sticking with it 8)
    Well you're a bloody idiot then.

    If you insist on riding with only one gear, then learn to shift your weight around the bike, and pedal smoothly. There's no reason you can;t do that whilst standing.
    But then, why would a singlespeeder be any good at actual mountain bike skills? :roll:


    A Chain has more chance of snapping going up hill due to the pressue it's under , I snapped a good bloody few in time when i was younger ... riding my BMX lol
  • colintravcolintrav Posts: 1,074
    Darra8 wrote:
    Well you're a bloody idiot then.

    If you insist on riding with only one gear, then learn to shift your weight around the bike, and pedal smoothly. There's no reason you can;t do that whilst standing.
    But then, why would a singlespeeder be any good at actual mountain bike skills? :roll:

    Your like, well harsh man :)

    I don't see that there is anything wrong wanting to try something a little different, even if it is bloody hard work :!:


    .....Neermind
  • Darra8Darra8 Posts: 721
    you decided to get a bike with one gear, then comes moaning about not being able to get up hills. I don;t think I'm being harsh at all. A bit soft, if anything.

    Who's moaning? I was merely asking for some advice..

    I still think you being well harsh :lol: : Actually, I take that back, I have read some of your replies to other peoples pos,t and your right, you have been quite soft....thanks for that :wink:
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  • I love climbing hills, and consider myself relatively fit for my age, but this is the exact reason why I don't have an SS.
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  • AnonymousAnonymous Posts: 79,692
    Colintrav, are you tripping balls? Or have your internets got confused somehow :lol:
  • colintravcolintrav Posts: 1,074
    It's 7pm and the drug is inhalled and the strange language of the initations rights begins
  • Darra8 wrote:
    supersonic wrote:
    I think you need gears ;-)

    No way man, I'm sticking with it 8)
    Well you're a bloody idiot then.

    If you insist on riding with only one gear, then learn to shift your weight around the bike, and pedal smoothly. There's no reason you can;t do that whilst standing.
    But then, why would a singlespeeder be any good at actual mountain bike skills? :roll:

    christ dont you ever give up??

    you had a go at someone else for having singlespeed, can you just let people make their own decisions? its their bike not yours.

    by the way i went singlespeed too, and i love it.
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