FAO: People who can't touch but can eat dead animals...
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I fully understand what a cow is and I know fine well that the delicious bacon on my roll this morning used to be part of a pig a week or so previously,.........
Good for you - a lot of people don't equate the field and the table.As for having my steaks well done, well I've tried medium and, on one particular evening that I'd prefer to forget, I've tried a part of someone else's steak which had been done blue. I prefer to eat cooked meat, not raw, and I like the taste of a well done steak. Only social convention and comments from walking testicles like Gordon Ramsay have convinced people that you MUST have your steak done no more than medium. Have it how the hell you like it, it's your food.
Fine by me mate. I only said I couldn't understand it and by that I mean how someone could prefer the taste of cremated shoe leather to a melt in the mouth sliver of prime red beef! I still don't despite your rant. We are all different of course.Fortes fortuna adiuvat.0 -
'Pologies if I was ranting, the missus has got me doing DIY today.
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Steaks should definitely be medium rare or less. My other half used to say she didn't like steak, said it was too chewy, just because her dad used to cook them 'well done' or 'badly done' as I like to call it. So I cooked one pretty rare (pink in the middle) and unsurprising she likes steak now!
As for killing animals, I love food and cooking so handling/preparing meat is fine, and I have caught, prepped and eaten my own fish a couple of times, but not sure how well i'd handle killing anything larger to be honest.Santa Cruz Chameleon
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yeehaamcgee wrote:I was watching Bear Grylls earlier, that guy's mad.
He just grabbed a frog, knocked it's head off on a rock, pulled the guts out through it's neck, and walked around eating it like he was munching on a mars bar
aren't most frogs endangered?
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er, nope. :?Porgy wrote:yeehaamcgee wrote:I was watching Bear Grylls earlier, that guy's mad.
He just grabbed a frog, knocked it's head off on a rock, pulled the guts out through it's neck, and walked around eating it like he was munching on a mars bar
aren't most frogs endangered?
I think some are. blame the French 0 -
I agree - and anyone who can't drive a train or pilot a plane shouldn't be allowed to ride on one!! :evil:
People who can't read latin should not be allowed to see a doctor or hire a barrister.
People who are unable to fix their own computers should be banned from the internet.
As a basic principle it's great!! :roll:0 -
yeehaamcgee wrote:
er, nope. :?Porgy wrote:yeehaamcgee wrote:I was watching Bear Grylls earlier, that guy's mad.
He just grabbed a frog, knocked it's head off on a rock, pulled the guts out through it's neck, and walked around eating it like he was munching on a mars bar
aren't most frogs endangered?
I think some are. blame the French
I just checked - about half the world's 6000 species of amphibians are endangered.
So only half - that's OK then0 -
Porgy wrote:People who can't read latin should not be allowed to see a doctor or hire a barrister.
All Doctors and barristers are fluent in latin? :shock:
Blimey! how aggressive is the OP on here? I am fine with the fact that my meat comes from animals, and that some of them are quite cute.
I prepare raw meat when I cook it, but I'm not keen on the feeling of it in the same way as I wouldn't like to let a slug slime across the palm of my hand...0 -
Oh wow. didn't know that. I thought there was some fungus killing them off in the States or something.Porgy wrote:I just checked - about half the world's 6000 species of amphibians are endangered.
So only half - that's OK then
Ah well, as long as Bearonly eats from the half that's not extinct, they'll be fine eh? 0 -
I'll eat most steaks blue as I think they taste best like that, but only if they've been done proplerly i.e properly browned on the outside, and it's got to be decent meat.
I agree, you have to be happy with the whole process of how we get meat to eat it, including the method of farming, i.e intensive vs free-range.
On another note, does anyone know how to portion up a chicken? I learned how to do this a while ago and it saves a fortune if you buy a whole chicken, portion it up and freeze it. For 2 people I get 3 meals each plus stock all for the cost of a packet ot 2 breast fillets. 8)0 -
What a load of bullsh1t. Like that then, you're not allowed to ride a bike anymore unless you can build one from scratch. Should cut down the number of people on this forum a bit. Are you "allowed" to be a vegetarian if you don't grow your own veg'? :?0
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My wife is vegetarian... when we visit places like the Lake district I tend to 'name' a couple of tasty looking lambs on the way round. When we get back from our walk I usually order a luverly lamb shank and start calling it 'Flopsy' or whatever cute name I gave the sheep
I also had a pair of sheepskin slippers I called Flopsy and Mopsy once...
I would love to rear animals in a back garden and wouldn't have any issue with slaughtering them. I agree with the OP in that you should be prepared to deal with the moral consequence of what you are actually eating! Personally I get 80% of my meat from a local butchers that responsibly sources from happy animals
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Steaks should be howveer you like them.
With me, that is medium, fried in butter with lots of peppercorns.0 -
You've missed the point quite spectacularly.Porgy wrote:I agree - and anyone who can't drive a train or pilot a plane shouldn't be allowed to ride on one!! :evil:
People who can't read latin should not be allowed to see a doctor or hire a barrister.
People who are unable to fix their own computers should be banned from the internet.
As a basic principle it's great!! :roll:
I couldn't kill a chicken right now unless I was desperate. That is, I don't know how to do it properly, with the minimum of suffering for the animal. I'm not trained for it.
However, if I WAS trained for it, I could and would. Similarly, if I knew how to drive a train or fly a plane, I'd do them (frankly I'd love to drive a train, you'd have to forcibly remove me from the cab). If it was "People who would refuse to drive a train if needed, assuming they had been given the required knowledge shouldn't be allowed to use them" then I'd agree, entirely.
Also, I agree very strongly with the idea that people who can't fix their computers should be banned from the Internet. When I'm Prime Minister, that's going to be the first law I introduce, before even my shooting squeamish people law.0 -
I'll have my application for emigration in the post this afternoon.0
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I will be fine Never been able to own sanything wothout pulling it apart and figuring out how it works/how to fix it/how to upgrade it.
Parents never did let me have another Dog... 0 -
whyamihere wrote:
You've missed the point quite spectacularly.Porgy wrote:I agree - and anyone who can't drive a train or pilot a plane shouldn't be allowed to ride on one!! :evil:
People who can't read latin should not be allowed to see a doctor or hire a barrister.
People who are unable to fix their own computers should be banned from the internet.
As a basic principle it's great!! :roll:
I couldn't kill a chicken right now unless I was desperate. That is, I don't know how to do it properly, with the minimum of suffering for the animal. I'm not trained for it.
However, if I WAS trained for it, I could and would. Similarly, if I knew how to drive a train or fly a plane, I'd do them (frankly I'd love to drive a train, you'd have to forcibly remove me from the cab). If it was "People who would refuse to drive a train if needed, assuming they had been given the required knowledge shouldn't be allowed to use them" then I'd agree, entirely.
Also, I agree very strongly with the idea that people who can't fix their computers should be banned from the Internet. When I'm Prime Minister, that's going to be the first law I introduce, before even my shooting squeamish people law.
Doesn't sound like I missed the point at all - you even agree with my absurd examples.
I think you've missed the point of why we live in societies...and why people became specialised in the first place.0 -
Specialized? Go fruitist and just have Oranges!0
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Kiblams wrote:I will be fine Never been able to own sanything wothout pulling it apart and figuring out how it works/how to fix it/how to upgrade it.
Parents never did let me have another Dog...
Of course the best thing under the new society would be trying to teach the masses about electricity generation and distribution - and the rudimentaries of electrical theory before they'd even be allowed to operate a kettle.
In fact - you've sold me - I'd vote for the OP just to see how the whole mad plan panned out 0 -
whyamihere wrote:[I couldn't kill a chicken right now unless I was desperate. That is, I don't know how to do it properly, with the minimum of suffering for the animal. I'm not trained for it.
Sounds like you're breaking your won rules there - how wiill it be - firing squad, electric chair or hanging?0 -
I'm preparing myself for a slating ( )but here goes:
I am a meat eater, but i could never KILL the actual animal, i have no problem with raw meat or raw organs like heart and liver, i can touch them and prepare them. As long as there are people to kill animals for me i will eat them. If they ever stop providing this service then that's the day i happily become a vegetarian.
Btw i eat my steak medium - juicy! 0 -
I'd kill my own food if I had the tools to do so. Give me a gun or a bow and arrow and I'd quite happily walk into a field in Spring, with the daisy's growing, the sun shining, the stream running softly down the hill, me chasing a little lamb round Rambo style. Would be great!
The fresher it is the better, and straight from the field is as fresh as it gets. I was raised up from the age of about 1 that "those little white things in the field are we're having for dinner on Sunday" and we would sing a song about mint sauce..... :twisted:
Each to their own in my opinion. I think that more people should be given the option to see an animal get slaughtered in a humane way, so that they understand where their food comes from, and how it is processed.It takes as much courage to have tried and failed as it does to have tried and succeeded.
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This sort of reminds ome of when my sister had to look after some kids a while back. They wanted chips for dinner, so she got out the potatoes, and they scrreamed "yuck, what have you got them out for? we want chips, not potatoes"
Turns out they didn;t know that chips were actually made from potatoes 0 -
Chips come from potatoes?! :shock:0
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Is your sister hot?0
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Well, not silicon ones! They come from breast implants.0
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supersonic wrote:Well, not silicon ones! They come from breast implants.
Which in turn come from Jordan. No, not the country.0
