Carbon in winter

topher9
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Read somewhere that carbon fibre doesn't like freezing temperatures. So, am I okay to ride my bike (with carbon forks) through the winter?
Also, should I be storing it in the loft rather than the garage where the temperatures will drop below freezing?
Also, should I be storing it in the loft rather than the garage where the temperatures will drop below freezing?
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Boeing will be in trouble flying their carbon fibre 787 at 30,000 feet won't they?0
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Oh no, here we go - NapD this is your cue...0
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but I'd be careful as because it's so brittle if you go over a bump at -0.1 degrees your forks may shatter0
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Thinking about it though, so long as you've kept the carbon perfectly dry you should be fine. If you get it wet, the moisture gets between the layers of cloth and when it freezes it splits the carbon apart.0
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will3 wrote:Thinking about it though, so long as you've kept the carbon perfectly dry you should be fine. If you get it wet, the moisture gets between the layers of cloth and when it freezes it splits the carbon apart.
Oh dear - do you honestly think that there is void between layers? Suggest you google Carbon Fibre.0 -
Pat Murray wrote:will3 wrote:Thinking about it though, so long as you've kept the carbon perfectly dry you should be fine. If you get it wet, the moisture gets between the layers of cloth and when it freezes it splits the carbon apart.
Oh dear - do you honestly think that there is void between layers? Suggest you google Carbon Fibre.
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This happened when someone took their bike from the warm garage straight out into -2 deg C temperatures.
Note the carbon fork.0 -
will3 wrote:Thinking about it though, so long as you've kept the carbon perfectly dry you should be fine. If you get it wet, the moisture gets between the layers of cloth and when it freezes it splits the carbon apart.
Wasn't there something about it "melting" if it got wet???? Actually not melting, but sort of dissolving. Much like steel frames. Which won't last a week if gotten wet.0 -
Pat Murray wrote:
Oh dear - do you honestly think that there is void between layers? Suggest you google Carbon Fibre.NapoleonD wrote:This happened when someone took their bike from the warm garage straight out into -2 deg C temperatures.
Note the carbon fork.
See I don;t need google, I've got NapD0 -
dennisn wrote:will3 wrote:Thinking about it though, so long as you've kept the carbon perfectly dry you should be fine. If you get it wet, the moisture gets between the layers of cloth and when it freezes it splits the carbon apart.
Wasn't there something about it "melting" if it got wet???? Actually not melting, but sort of dissolving. Much like steel frames. Which won't last a week if gotten wet.
maha , and if you then freeze it it will shatter easily, just like the baddie in Terminator 20 -
This woman and child were riding their full carbon fibre commuter with carbon wheels on veloflex carbon tyres when they got hit by a rain storm...0
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djbarren wrote:why then do they use carbon fibre for skis, ski poles and snowboards???????????
It's not real carbon fibre. They usually use teak wood and just put stickers on it to make it look like carbon fibre
Edit: I googled it:
Apparently the small gaps between the layers of carbon cloth in the skis cause enough friction as the skis flex to warm them above freezing0 -
They use this -
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1000mm-x-610mm~~-CARBON-FIBRE--~~--Sticker-Vinyl_W0QQitemZ350195511357QQcmdZViewItem
Over pieces of pig iron.0 -
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I never knew about the bears. Wow"The only absolute statement is that everything is relative" - anon0
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Pat Murray wrote:will3 wrote:Thinking about it though, so long as you've kept the carbon perfectly dry you should be fine. If you get it wet, the moisture gets between the layers of cloth and when it freezes it splits the carbon apart.
Oh dear - do you honestly think that there is void between layers? Suggest you google Carbon Fibre.
Well there could be voids between layers and even between fibres themselves - incomplete macroflow. Although if macroflow isn't complete the "operator" should be able to identify the issue and reject the component. But if there is incomplete microflow you are probably screwed.
I guess I did listen while at uni.0 -
redddraggon wrote:Pat Murray wrote:will3 wrote:Thinking about it though, so long as you've kept the carbon perfectly dry you should be fine. If you get it wet, the moisture gets between the layers of cloth and when it freezes it splits the carbon apart.
Oh dear - do you honestly think that there is void between layers? Suggest you google Carbon Fibre.
Well there could be voids between layers and even between fibres themselves - incomplete macroflow. Although if macroflow isn't complete the "operator" should be able to identify the issue and reject the component. But if there is incomplete microflow you are probably screwed.
I guess I did listen while at uni.
I'm impressed. Not a clue about what you said, but very impressed with the way you said it.0 -
o my god
beauty creams don,t workWhat do you meen you did not see me.
I,m the pillock in the Hi vis top.0 -
dennisn wrote:redddraggon wrote:Pat Murray wrote:will3 wrote:Thinking about it though, so long as you've kept the carbon perfectly dry you should be fine. If you get it wet, the moisture gets between the layers of cloth and when it freezes it splits the carbon apart.
Oh dear - do you honestly think that there is void between layers? Suggest you google Carbon Fibre.
Well there could be voids between layers and even between fibres themselves - incomplete macroflow. Although if macroflow isn't complete the "operator" should be able to identify the issue and reject the component. But if there is incomplete microflow you are probably screwed.
I guess I did listen while at uni.
I'm impressed. Not a clue about what you said, but very impressed with the way you said it.
It's all to do with resin flow through preforms. The "quality" of the flow of resin is determined by the viscosity of the resin, too viscous and you'll get incomplete flow.0 -
just dont get milk on it ....
I left a bowl of fibre flakes sitting in milk and they turned to mush , Imagine what it will do to a frame...
jeez....imagine if the milk was COLD !!
oh ...and dont buy a Planet X like I did , cos apparently they are made of used cornflake boxes from the 1970's ....and they really dont like milk ...cold or not !0 -
I KNEW Carbon Fibre was spawned by the devil.0
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djbarren wrote:will3 wrote:Boeing will be in trouble flying their carbon fibre 787 at 30,000 feet won't they?
If carbon fails in the frost why would boeing be using it on the new wingset of the said plane.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6282820.stm
I wonder if that was my point.0 -
Ive heard it breaks with an awesome display of quadpower .........(I'll sleep easy)0
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Sorry, confused by the shite reference. :oops:
fair point y'all not know what a 787's all about0 -
NapoleonD wrote:kingrollo wrote:Ive heard it breaks with an awesome display of quadpower .........(I'll sleep easy)
Oi, it's QuadPower(tm).
And yes. It does.
Especially if you've been following a Chris Charmichael CTS TrainingPlan(tm).
youve only copyrighted it in title case - all lower case - its fair game !!!
....or you can make a legal test case - which I win with a display of Quidpower !
Is carbon ok - if its a bit cloudy ?0 -
kingrollo wrote:NapoleonD wrote:kingrollo wrote:Ive heard it breaks with an awesome display of quadpower .........(I'll sleep easy)
Oi, it's QuadPower(tm).
And yes. It does.
Especially if you've been following a Chris Charmichael CTS TrainingPlan(tm).
youve only copyrighted it in title case - all lower case - its fair game !!!
....or you can make a legal test case - which I win with a display of Quidpower !
Is carbon ok - if its a bit cloudy ?
In that case I concede, with an immense display of QuitPower.0