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Going aero (or partly aero if possible)

markmodmarkmod Posts: 501
edited September 2009 in Workshop
Hi all,

I am looking for info/ instructions/ help to set up my road bike with a part aero bar tt set up, Did my first 10 mile time trial recently and i am now hooked, mainly to decrease the dire time i ran!! Now it was really windy and the head wind almost made me slow to a crawl in places... nearly all the guys ran with full aero bars and shifters etc mostly on full tt style bikes... but that is a cost of a full new bike i don't wish to go for yet (so please no just buy a tt bike please)

My idea is to get a set up that can be used for local 10's but also for the regular run outs using the drops and regular sti brifters on club runs. ( i understand and why clubs don't want riders to use aero bars and tt extensions on club runs)

So far i have a few choices re the cockpit, I am now fairly settled on Hed flip up bars with lazy s bend extensions...These flip up so i can still climb and use the road bars as before.

These will clip on to my existing Ritchey WCS evolution bars that will accept clip on fine... (i have checked and had a confirmation of this from Ritchey.

But i now fear and have read that shifting will be really annoying while in the aero position , having to reach for the shifter on the drops, and then back to aero bars again...

So i am now interested on adding bar end shifters that will-

A. work with my 11 speed chorus- i have read that I can use bar end shifters in friction mode to achieve this? if so which shifter will be compatible with friction mode and 11 speed campy- year, link and serial numbers would be a help please

B Integrate wth keeping my drop shifters in place and usable for club runs. What kit do i need for this- I have seen the jtek dual control adapters for the shifters to work with the drops still... Has anyone got any feedback, info, links, instructions for these, is there a better/ neater/ cheaper solution out there?

I am also looking at adding brakes to the extensions too perhaps and jtek also make a dual break splitter too and will allow me to mount break levers on the extensions, has any one used these?

I am looking to move my saddle forward using a profile design seat post too to get a better position.

Whilst i know the above info is very specialised, perhaps someone could point me to a source of detailed information/ help in this area.

Thanks in advance

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  • blorgblorg Posts: 1,169
    Just start with clip ons and see how you get on. They make a big difference and you should get used to them quickly enough. It is a bit annoying moving to shift but you get a lot more used to this too.

    Personally I kept my saddle where it was simply as I wanted to be able to continue to use my bars as normal and leave the clip ons pretty much all the time other than road racing where I have to take them off as they are illegal. I did drop my bars on one of my bikes though. Leaving them on all the time means more training using them and more getting used to them.

    TT shifters would be nicer while on them certainly but I don't think it is possible to have both these and your current shifters- it was one of the possible benefits mooted for electronic Dura Ace, that you could have auxilliary shift buttons.

    I had clip ons on Ritchey WCS evolution carbon bars and they indeed worked fine.

    Even on TT bikes you do not have brakes on the extensions, they are roughly the same place on a TT bike as your brakes are currently. You have far less control while on the aero bars and I can't imagine having brakes there would be a good idea even if technically possible (which I don't think it would be due to the cable routing- you can put cross interrupter levers on the flats as that is where the brake cable is going anyway, but not up onto the extensions.)

    Bottom line- start with the clip ons first. If you want the bar end levers you then have the options of either buying a TT bike or simply buying TT handlebars (although it is a bit of a censored to be changing over the cabling every time you might want to switch between road and TT.)
  • blorg wrote:
    TT shifters would be nicer while on them certainly but I don't think it is possible to have both these and your current shifters

    Never seen or heard of it being done; the cable tension issues are more complex than brake set ups (as on some 'cross bikes) using two sets of levers but only one set of cables.

    As for the original post - any old friction bar-end shifter should work with a Campag 11sp. mech (Shimano SIS switched to 'friction' mode is probably best), but for indexing you're resticted to Campag - here I'm assuming they now make a bar-end lever to suit their new stuff - though I think their bar-end shifters have always lacked the option of a friction setting.

    David
    "It is not enough merely to win; others must lose." - Gore Vidal
  • As has been said, unless you want a real challenge, I wouldn't try to add shifters to your clip-ons. very few bikes (maybe none) use two sets of gear shifters. Just get some clip ons and accept the fact that you'll have to reach off them to change gear. It's really not a big issue. I did it for years and got some decent times before I finally bought a full TT bike.

    The great thing about clip ons is you can take them on and off as you like - on for TTs, off you normal riding. Trying to add shifters and change position is effectively trying to turn your road bike into a TT bike - not worth it. Just ride with clip ons for a while and then consider a TT bike if you want.
  • LangerDanLangerDan Posts: 6,132
    blorg wrote:
    TT shifters would be nicer while on them certainly but I don't think it is possible to have both these and your current shifters

    Never seen or heard of it being done; the cable tension issues are more complex than brake set ups (as on some 'cross bikes) using two sets of levers but only one set of cables.
    David

    Oh yes it is, though I believe keeping them balanced is a right PITA

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