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Lights for around £100

scoobywrxscoobywrx Posts: 111
edited August 2009 in MTB buying advice
Im having trouble finding decent reccommendations for a front light for around £100
I do mainly morning rides in woods and tracks. Only out for a max 45-90 mins
Pleae can you offer me some sdvise or point me to a site that reviews

(out in the morning after 3-4 week layoff - Holiday) Can't wait!!
kendoddsdadsdogsdead

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  • supersonicsupersonic Posts: 82,708 Lives Here
    Have a read of our what lights thread.
  • The SpidermanThe Spiderman Posts: 5,625
    edited August 2009
    To save you a lot of time trawling through the other thread,I would reccomend reading this review:http://www.mtbbritain.co.uk/mountain_bike_lights_review_led.html
    I have been using them since last winter and have been very impressed,as have many others on here,and other people who I ride with ,that now also have bought their own,having seen how effective they are.
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  • HoughamHougham Posts: 120
    Yup for short rides there perfectly fine at a very good price :)
    Anthem X1 for sale
  • FlenserFlenser Posts: 372
    Why spend £100 when you could get a P7 and a C1 for half the price?
    Claud Bulter Cape Wrath D27 (2009)
    Raleigh MaxLite FS1 (2001)
  • DazzzaDazzza Posts: 2,364
    Yup both are very good lights.

    Btw details on your scooby please. ;)
    The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it.
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  • scoobywrxscoobywrx Posts: 111
    these lights seems to come up many times
    Hope 1
    P7
    Exposure joystick MaXx 2

    (not familar with C1 Flenser)

    I think I need to buy a bar mounted one first and I know the joystick is an excellent lid light. I guess the price reflexs the weight and size.

    Another issue is will these lights give a wide beam as well as their spot beam

    so do i need two lights one with a wide and one spot or go for one that does both

    HELP!!
    kendoddsdadsdogsdead
  • DazzzaDazzza Posts: 2,364
    The c1 torch mentioned is the ultrafire c1 that i usually recommend for a helmet light.

    You have the p7 on the bars for a nice flood and the c1 on the helmet as it provides a nice spot to light up trails you plan on biking, you'll find having a bar light alone won't be enough, you need to light different areas of the trails to see what's coming up, the bar light can only cover what is in front of you.

    http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.12623
    http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.14443

    That's what most people run, the c1 can take p60 hosts so when a new led comes you just replace the unit, or if you fancy different modes, i went for a 1 mode.

    http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.11836

    And the mounts i use for the lid and bars.

    http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.15642
    http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.12000
    The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it.
    Giant Anthem X
  • scoobywrxscoobywrx Posts: 111
    Dazzza
    Very useful information. It makes sense having the wider flood of the p7 on the bars, then the C1 on your helmet.

    Would 2 P7's be unneccesary on your bars?

    My other half goes cycling in the morning once I return. I though about buying two of the helmet and bar light holders so we can swap the lights round. I think I need an extra set of batteries and charger too

    Would you reccommend any other lights ?
    kendoddsdadsdogsdead
  • DazzzaDazzza Posts: 2,364
    Personally id stick with those two, quality can vary in these torches so it's usually best to stick to what has a good rep.

    Two p7's would be a bit much tbh.

    Batteries i would use these, they have ones with more capacity but they can't handle high current draws so end up worse off.

    http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.28677

    As for a charger this, as you see it has a two pin plug common to most things in the home so you may not need an adaptor, it also has a 12v input on the side if you have an adaptor the right size, handy for those trips away from home.

    http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.1251

    A p7 would last about 1 hour on full and the c1 with an r2 led about 3 hours though i haven't fully tested that, they do dimmer after that naturally, don't drain them down the batteries really don't like it.

    http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.1251

    The c1 torches are currently out of stock so this is a good alternative.

    http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.16240
    The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it.
    Giant Anthem X
  • Surf-MattSurf-Matt Posts: 5,952
    Hope 1 - made for MTBs, strong, easy mounting, uses AA batteries which you can get anywhere, huge battery life on lower settings (3 hours in highest), compact (easy to stash in a bag), and backed up by Hope's great customer service. Oh and 240 lumens is plenty - if not spend a tenner on a helmet mounted torch and use the Hope helmet mount strap and a jubilee clip - about 55p.

    About £70 well spent.
  • scoobywrxscoobywrx Posts: 111
    My lights have been ordered from dealextreme
    p7
    c1
    charger 2 sets of batteries
    plug adapter
    2 bar holders
    2 helmet holders

    Thanks to Dazzza for your help

    Hope they arrive soon before the darkness does
    kendoddsdadsdogsdead
  • FlenserFlenser Posts: 372
    scoobywrx wrote:
    My lights have been ordered from dealextreme
    p7
    c1
    charger 2 sets of batteries
    plug adapter
    2 bar holders
    2 helmet holders

    Thanks to Dazzza for your help

    Hope they arrive soon before the darkness does

    I'm jealous now. That's exactly what I'm buying once I have the cash.
    Claud Bulter Cape Wrath D27 (2009)
    Raleigh MaxLite FS1 (2001)
  • damo2576damo2576 Posts: 236
    Do you get charged any import duty etc buying from deal extreme?
  • DazzzaDazzza Posts: 2,364
    scoobywrx wrote:
    My lights have been ordered from dealextreme
    p7
    c1
    charger 2 sets of batteries
    plug adapter
    2 bar holders
    2 helmet holders

    Thanks to Dazzza for your help

    Hope they arrive soon before the darkness does

    No worries and the bonus being if they fault or you need more run time it's no biggie just buy what extra you need rather than having to buy a whole new kit.

    Led's are always improving, there's an r5 xp-g on the way which will bump your c1 from 250 max lumens to 350 for the same run time, hosts are quite cheap as well usually a tenner.

    Im thinking of losing the p7 and running two c1's hopefully with a flood beam should it make a showing that way i get 3 hours of run time instead, but for now what you've ordered is what i myself run, it's up there with the high end lights.

    A friend of mine couldn't believe i was going to turn up to a ride with just a torch. ;)
    The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it.
    Giant Anthem X
  • damo2576damo2576 Posts: 236
    How does a 3W rated LED beam compare?

    Quite liking this
    http://uk.rs-online.com/web/search/sear ... &R=6553005
  • DazzzaDazzza Posts: 2,364
    edited August 2009
    A mag would be destroyed by the likes of the r2 and p7, i have a 6 cell d mag with the double bright bulb fitted.

    You really can't compare the two though modding the mags to take an led is very popular.

    The p7 is a 10w led btw. :)
    The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it.
    Giant Anthem X
  • damo2576damo2576 Posts: 236
    Ta, just that they dont look that well made? Are they ok?

    Design of the Mag's is very nice. Classic.
  • DazzzaDazzza Posts: 2,364
    Perfectly fine and they're dirt cheap anyway.
    The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it.
    Giant Anthem X
  • cougiecougie Posts: 22,512
    I used the P7 last year on my bars - massive throw - wide beam - perfect. Match that with a AA torch on the helmet like a Fenix and you're laughing.

    I have just ordered the new Dealextreme bike specific torch.

    https://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.25149

    Should be fun !
  • damo2576damo2576 Posts: 236
    How does the P7 compare to the Hope 1?
  • FlenserFlenser Posts: 372
    damo2576 wrote:
    How does the P7 compare to the Hope 1?[/quote

    Hope 1 = 240 lumens.

    http://www.ukbikestore.co.uk/product/21 ... light.html
    The 1 high powered LED pushes out 240 lumens on max power!

    P7 = two mode, 250 lumens on low, 900 lumens on high.

    http://www.zled.com/en/product/prd/zpowerLEDp7.asp
    Z-Power LED P7 series is single LED package providing the world highest brightness of 900 lumens and the efficacy of 90 lumens per watt to replace the conventional bulbs.
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    Raleigh MaxLite FS1 (2001)
  • lock1981lock1981 Posts: 546
    i ordered my bike specific p7 week gone thursday.... still waiting!!!

    i hate waiting!!!!

    should be here soon though
  • eyepiceyepic Posts: 58
    When it does arrive I would be most interested in how well it performs.
  • supersonicsupersonic Posts: 82,708 Lives Here
    The P7 torches aren't quite 900 lumens - that is the maximum manufacturer rated output for the LED. Given the power supply, optical losses etc they are about 5-600 lumens. Still bloody bright, and still twice what the Hope can manage.
  • DazzzaDazzza Posts: 2,364
    Yup light wise they aren't too far behind a lupine betty as a friend has one.

    Torch like bike lights are the future tbh it's just a question of time as improvements are being made all the time, rumour has it that if cree make an mc-e using the new xp-g emitter it'll be about 1000 actual lumens with a better run time than the p7.

    So things are really starting to hot up. :D
    The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it.
    Giant Anthem X
  • psilocybepsilocybe Posts: 119
    My P7 arrived while on holiday (took less than time than expected as well). I havent actually tested it out in the dark on the bike yet but what i can tell so far is it kicks the censored of my Fenix TK11 and was much less money also.
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