Road Bike Panniers?

pangolin
pangolin Posts: 6,518
edited August 2009 in Workshop
Hello everyone.

Sorry, had a search but couldn't see an answer. Anyone know if I could fit any panniers on a Dolan Mythos? There are no mounts for it. I've seen the ones that fit to the seat tube but it's carbon so not sure if that is ok? Frame is carbon too, a pic is below.

http://www.dolan-bikes.com/mythos.html

Mine is last years so some differences, but frame and seat tube are the same.

Thanks for the help

Sam
- Genesis Croix de Fer
- Dolan Tuono

Comments

  • P clips are used to add a mouting point to a frame that doesn't have any. On carbon this would be, at best, an exceedingly bad idea (as they grip by compression).

    You could use one of these

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    but I'm guessing the effect on handling (as the weight is held higher) would be somewhere between crap and really crap.

    At the end of the day the Mythos is desgined for riding quickly not carrying loads.
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,518
    I thought that might be the case. It wouldn't be regular but just a very occasional long ride when I would need more stuff. May have to look at other bike options.

    Thanks
    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono
  • amaferanga
    amaferanga Posts: 6,789
    I used a seatpost rack (from Decathlon) and a rack bag (Agu Yamaska 475) on a recent 5 day tour on my Kuota Kharma. I think this set-up is much better than using panniers on a bike without fixings for a proper rack. The Agu rack bag has fold-down panniers, but I never use these as with careful packing I could fit everything I needed for a week in the main bag. The rack I use doesn't have the side supports for panniers anyway making it lighter and more 'elegant' looking. Don't be fooled by the price of the rack either - its a quality bit of kit made by a quality company.

    The handling feels different, but after 10 or 20 minutes it feels fine. As with any time you add luggage to any bike, it takes a little while to get used to it. My set-up has very little effect on the handling (wasn't crap or really crap :wink:), even when out of the saddle climbing. It doesn't sway at all (unlike giant saddlebags)

    If you go for this set-up you'd be wise to buy an alloy seat post though. People do use these on carbon posts, but IMO that's just asking for trouble.
    More problems but still living....
  • GyatsoLa
    GyatsoLa Posts: 667
    Your best bet is a rack that mounts on the spindle and either the brake bosses or an M-Part seatpost clamp. www.oldmanmountain.com racks are all designed for this (if you want a heavyweight rack). For lighter racks, most Tubus racks can be modified for mounting on the spindle (the converter kits are sold by wiggle).
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,518
    Thanks for the advice guys. Do you think attaching it to an alloy seatpost would be detrimental to the carbon frame at all?

    Apart from making it handle worse obviously.
    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono
  • The geometry is all wrong for anything other than a small saddle bag, the bike won't break but it could be unpleasant and dangerous.
    I had a long chat with Paul at CorriDorri about this and he talked me out of it.
    Hope this helps.
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,518
    That makes me sad. Saddle bag and rucksack it is I guess. Maybe I can fit a trailer! :wink:
    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono
  • amaferanga
    amaferanga Posts: 6,789
    I don't see the geometry being that different from my Kharma. Rack + bag weight up to 8kg or so should be fine. I have done this and cycled 1500km with the setup and handling was absolutely fine - certainly wasn't dangerous.
    More problems but still living....