downloading music

fast as fupp
fast as fupp Posts: 2,277
edited July 2009 in The bottom bracket
now we all know that this is BAD as pop stars are starving paupers living in attic flats with leaky roofs but is it legal to download copies of albums thats youve already own purchased years ago on vinyl? after all its much easier to download a particular lp than have to retrieve it from the loft then copy it to your computer.

im sure some of you clever folk out there must have the definitive answer?
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  • If you still own the vinyl/ casette/cd then its legal to download it via a torrent site. It's illegal to download if you don't already have it at home. Even if you owned it at some time and then lost it. Without a legally bought copy your illegally downloading
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  • robmanic1
    robmanic1 Posts: 2,150
    If you still own the vinyl/ casette/cd then its legal to download it via a torrent site. It's illegal to download if you don't already have it at home. Even if you owned it at some time and then lost it. Without a legally bought copy your illegally downloading

    That's really interesting, I had no idea that was the case. So if I had a "friend" who had some old vinyl he wanted to own digitally, what sites would you recommend to me, I mean him.
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  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    It's illegal.

    It's even illegal to rip a CD you own to MP3
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  • It's illegal.

    It's even illegal to rip a CD you own to MP3

    Really? I was under the impression you are allowed to make up to two copies of a CD you've bought (as a backup). This would mean you'd have to rip it to mp3/wma etc.
  • Puzzler
    Puzzler Posts: 73
    I have a friend who says Limewire is not to bad, apparently.
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  • robmanic1
    robmanic1 Posts: 2,150
    Puzzler wrote:
    I have a friend who says Limewire is not to bad, apparently.

    My "friend" used that previously but was concerned to hear that many of the downloads contained viruses (or was that scaremongering?)
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  • verloren
    verloren Posts: 337

    Really? I was under the impression you are allowed to make up to two copies of a CD you've bought (as a backup). This would mean you'd have to rip it to mp3/wma etc.

    Actually you're expected to copy it directly to another CD, no mp3 required. And once you've done it you're expected to file the backup away; it's not for playing elsewhere.

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  • ExeterSimon
    ExeterSimon Posts: 830
    Limewire...but run with Peer Guardian.

    That way the FBI won't kick your door down for downloading Watchmen or the latest MJ 'tribute' (money making) album.
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  • Le Commentateur
    Le Commentateur Posts: 4,099
    edited July 2009
    Whatever format (vinyl, tape, digital) the only real right you have is to play and listen to the music. Downloading involves copying to your computer so puts you in breach, as you don't have the duplication right (copyright -- geddit?), the exception being when you purchase a copy from a rights holder (e.g iTunes). It's just like computer software -- you don't "own" the program, what you own is a license to use it. In the past it wasn't practical to chase up infringers of analogue formats, but in the digital age it is easier to track file-sharers, and a planned system for the UK is a series of warnings followed by a cancellation of internet access to an IP address.

    The real long-term solution is that everything will be on line somewhereand there won't be a need to download anything, e.g. spotify.
  • verloren wrote:

    Really? I was under the impression you are allowed to make up to two copies of a CD you've bought (as a backup). This would mean you'd have to rip it to mp3/wma etc.

    Actually you're expected to copy it directly to another CD, no mp3 required. And once you've done it you're expected to file the backup away; it's not for playing elsewhere.

    Oh ok.

    Well if I were to download music (because naturally I don't... :wink: ) I would use utorrent! You get some pretty high download rates and I've not had any problems with viruses. If not then there's always the youtube option! Better IMO, providing they have the songs obviously!
  • nasahapley
    nasahapley Posts: 717
    My mate tells me that a programme called 'Tubetilla', which converts the audio off Youtube vids into mp3s, is really good (there's other programmes which do the same thing, but Tubetilla's really quick n' easy to use, apparently). Dead handy for hard to find stuff as pretty much everything's on Youtube, my mate says he's now got hundreds of old dance tracks that couldn't be found elsewhere for love nor money. Obviously I think he's a heinous criminal for doing this, but there's no telling him.
  • prawny
    prawny Posts: 5,440
    I have never ever used bit lord to download full albums as a torrent.

    I overheard some people talking saying it was very fast and you can get whole back catalogs in one bite. Which would be nice, but not for me.

    All joking aside though, I'd much rather buy cd's, they're much more fun to alphabetise 8)
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  • Stewie Griffin
    Stewie Griffin Posts: 4,330
    prawny wrote:
    I have never ever used bit lord to download full albums as a torrent.

    I overheard some people talking saying it was very fast and you can get whole back catalogs in one bite. Which would be nice, but not for me.

    All joking aside though, I'd much rather buy cd's, they're much more fun to alphabetise 8)

    I too have overheard other people that I didnt know and will never bump into again and wouldnt ever be able to recognise even if I did talking about how good Bitlord is, in their opnion.
  • Wappygixer
    Wappygixer Posts: 1,396
    Try the pirate bay and bitcomet to download them.
    Its at your risk though.
    An American woman got sued for over 1 million last month for sharing something like 20 songs.
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  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Google

    Click More | Blogs

    Search for what you want.

    P2P etc is old hat.
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  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    Get a Rapidshare account and download from there. Safest at the moment.

    You can get caught torrenting, in my student house we got a warning off the ISP for downloading a PC game
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  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Yes, technically downloading is fine. It's the sharing which is the issue.
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  • whyamihere
    whyamihere Posts: 7,708
    Should be, don't you think?

    It's not. IP laws are fundamentally broken. Sod 'em. Do what you like, bad laws should be broken.
  • Mettan
    Mettan Posts: 2,103
    edited July 2009
    Ebay was interesting a couple of years ago - low fees at that time - some poeple would buy their cd's, Rip them at home then sell them back on Ebay for the same sort of price - virtually cost nothing at the time - and one could get 100's of albums (essentially for free - even though you've bought them). IIRC, the government are curerntly considering chaging the law to allow making a digital backup of your own music cd's.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Mr Reznor had some interesting comments in a recent interview

    Worth a read

    http://showbizandstyle.inquirer.net/ent ... ears-later
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  • Essex Man
    Essex Man Posts: 283
    For anyone with an attack of conscience, emusic is very cheap and legal.
  • White Line
    White Line Posts: 887
    Download µTorrent then pop along to Demonoid. :D

    Only if you like stealing though.