Under sealing a steel frame

Whytepeak
Whytepeak Posts: 2,616
edited June 2009 in MTB workshop & tech
Is it necessary to wax-oil the interior of a steel frame?
Now that we are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak and not to please ourselves. ROMANS 15:1

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  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    spray some WD40 into the tubes.
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  • Whytepeak
    Whytepeak Posts: 2,616
    Would do, but Dad (the owner of many a steel road frame), is intent on 'wax - oil'

    Just hope it dosen't melt the frame :( :roll:
    Now that we are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak and not to please ourselves. ROMANS 15:1
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    waxoyl adds too much weight. not needed.
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  • Whytepeak
    Whytepeak Posts: 2,616
    Well waxoyl it is :(

    I'll try to be as frugal as posibble Nick, because 'the old man' is set on it :roll:
    Now that we are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak and not to please ourselves. ROMANS 15:1
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    watch out in the hot weather as it will come out of the weld holes.
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  • The Northern Monkey
    The Northern Monkey Posts: 19,136
    lol!!

    my dad's muddy fox from the late 80's early 90's frame is fine, never had any protection etc.... and your worried about a new frame!
    Santa Cruz Butcher
  • Whytepeak
    Whytepeak Posts: 2,616
    I ain't (overly) worried, its dad!

    bigbenj_08 - you ain't helpin' :lol:

    thanks for that Nick - just opened the (rusty :shock: :roll: ) tin, and it is a bad consistancy lol

    Here goes nothin' :D
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  • The Northern Monkey
    The Northern Monkey Posts: 19,136
    seriously listen to Nick... waxoyl is overkill!
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  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    Whytepeak

    get it heated up so that it only goes in thin.

    But check the frame for the blow holes on the seat and chainstays at the rear drop outs.

    you may want to block then out or you can have waxoyl dripping on your discs.
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  • Whytepeak
    Whytepeak Posts: 2,616
    bigbenj_08 wrote:
    seriously listen to Nick... waxoyl is overkill!

    What can I do lol

    Waxoyl it is. I'll just put it in the 3 main tubes.
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  • The Northern Monkey
    The Northern Monkey Posts: 19,136
    well you could have said " sod off its my bike".... depending on who spent the £££ on it though lol.
    Santa Cruz Butcher
  • Whytepeak
    Whytepeak Posts: 2,616
    bigbenj_08 wrote:
    well you could have said " sod off its my bike".... depending on who spent the £££ on it though lol.

    Errrr yeah :oops:
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  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Yeah, tell the old sod that he doesn't know as much as we do!
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  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    supersonic wrote:
    Yeah, tell the old sod that he doesn't know as much as we do!

    hang on how Old is "Dad"?
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  • Whytepeak
    Whytepeak Posts: 2,616
    Retires next year.

    Heven't done it yet though - been waylayed by washing up duties.
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  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    right he is of the OLD skool.

    lets say he is going to insist that you do it.

    get the waxoyl HOT this is so that you get the thinnest layer on the sides.

    Als get the frame warm. dont worry about making a mess as it is cleanable etc.

    There is actually a proper frame treatment that you can buy (never used it) even on my '84 steel MTB yes a 25 year old MTB and it is fine.

    all you really need is a light spray of some water displacer in the tubes now and they when you service the headset and the BB.
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  • The Northern Monkey
    The Northern Monkey Posts: 19,136
    nicklouse wrote:
    supersonic wrote:
    Yeah, tell the old sod that he doesn't know as much as we do!

    hang on how Old is "Dad"?

    :lol: made me giggle
    Santa Cruz Butcher
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    bigbenj_08 wrote:
    nicklouse wrote:
    supersonic wrote:
    Yeah, tell the old sod that he doesn't know as much as we do!

    hang on how Old is "Dad"?

    :lol: made me giggle

    just thought i should check :wink:
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  • Whytepeak
    Whytepeak Posts: 2,616
    Just hope he dosen't read this :lol:
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  • Whytepeak
    Whytepeak Posts: 2,616
    Done it :D

    got the oil hot (thanks nicklouse) and it was pretty easy.

    Only put some in the down tube and the seat tube, but that should do.
    Now that we are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak and not to please ourselves. ROMANS 15:1
  • dave_hill
    dave_hill Posts: 3,877
    Why the hell does it need any treatment of any sort? And what the hecks it got to do with your dad?

    I have 25 year old steel-framed road bike which is still as sound as the day that it came out of the factory and it's never been given ANY treatment at all.

    Tell your dad he's talking bollocks. And learn to stand up for yourself, he doesn't know everything. My dad used to be exactly the same. It wasn't until I learned to ignore him or shout him down that I started getting anywhere with him.
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  • Northwind
    Northwind Posts: 14,675
    If you want to seriously rustproof tubes, ACF50 is possibly the best tool for the job, plus it smells of marzipan. But at about £10 a tin for something you don't actually need it still doesn't make all that much sense ;) Bit of WD40 or similiar makes you feel better mainly.
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  • Tank-slapper
    Tank-slapper Posts: 968
    I waxoyled my Landrover a couple of years ago. It is a disgusting job. There must be better ways of doing bikes.
  • jfeat
    jfeat Posts: 9
    http://www.framebuilding.com/Framesaver.htm

    This is a spray designed to protect steel frames. Amazingly penetrative, apply a couple of coats few hrs aprt & job done. I used it on my inbred last year. I have never used waxoyl but it seems more laborious than framesaver.

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