Ronaldo

plowmar
plowmar Posts: 1,032
edited June 2009 in The bottom bracket
Any one disappointed with the removal of the winging tripper to Real ?
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Seriously though a good bit of business for United for a player who didn't perform in the really important games.(Best against Barca - but that wasn't difficult was it?)
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  • Stewie Griffin
    Stewie Griffin Posts: 4,330
    Am glad that Christine is going, just cant believe how much Money they have bid for the big girls blouse. Where do Real get their Money from? Didnt they say they would never go down the Galactico route again?
  • bobtbuilder
    bobtbuilder Posts: 1,537
    Stewie - you're just shocked that Utd aren't following the Spurs "buy 'em dear, sell 'em cheap policy" LOL :lol:
  • Stewie Griffin
    Stewie Griffin Posts: 4,330
    Stewie - you're just shocked that Utd aren't following the Spurs "buy 'em dear, sell 'em cheap policy" LOL :lol:

    They can use that £80m to pay the interest on their debt :lol: .
  • nicensleazy
    nicensleazy Posts: 2,310
    This man reminds me of a rather large C@CK! :lol:
  • Aggieboy
    Aggieboy Posts: 3,996
    This man reminds me of a rather large C@CK! :lol:

    The sooner we get rid of Ronaldo,Drogba and their ilk the better. Oh, how I long for the days of Billy Bonds etc. :twisted:
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  • davelakers
    davelakers Posts: 762
    Apparently the Real President, Mr Perez, has bought Kaka and the Puff out of his own pocket!!
  • jc4lab
    jc4lab Posts: 554
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/ ... 365676.ece

    ""Wouldnt sell you a virus "might just get sung round one or two grounds next season....but its A big loss to our league If Im honest
    jc
  • Stewie Griffin
    Stewie Griffin Posts: 4,330
    davelakers wrote:
    Apparently the Real President, Mr Perez, has bought Kaka and the Puff out of his own pocket!!

    apparently not;

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8094864.stm
  • Infamous
    Infamous Posts: 1,130
    Mixed feelings tbh, if he had gone last summer I'd of cried. But after the way he acted this year (every time he lost the ball he'd stand around for 5 mins) and the fact he wasn't as good this year, well, they can have him.
  • robmanic1
    robmanic1 Posts: 2,150
    NOW who we gonna hate?
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  • freehub
    freehub Posts: 4,257
    edited June 2009
    Does Ronaldo have a red Ferrari (I think F430) with numberplate with CKR on, did not catch the other bit when it went past, Bhima said it was him tho.
  • Slow Downcp
    Slow Downcp Posts: 3,041
    Robmanic1 wrote:
    NOW who we gonna hate?

    Still Man U :wink:
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  • To be fair Fergie woudn't sell a virus to the last Real administration. Perez, for obvious reasons, has bent over backwards to build bridges. Fergie knows what he is doing (remember all those jokes about Fletcher?), and also knows, I suspect, that the fans will back this decision to sell. There's still more than enough firepower at OT to keep the Reds top of the pile and this will probably unleash Rooney in his preferred position. An awesome proposition.
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  • Stewie - you're just shocked that Utd aren't following the Spurs "buy 'em dear, sell 'em cheap policy" LOL :lol:

    They can use that £80m to pay the interest on their debt :lol: .

    Or they could just use it to buy Newcastle Utd. :idea:
  • I think the whole thing is obscene, eighty million quid it just beggers belief.

    The whole rotten business should be towed out to sea and sent to the bottom,
    mind you Sky would probably cover that in HD as well


    The beautiful game of Wright, Matthews, Puskas, Pele, Moore has ended up
    mired in envy, petulance and avarice. No wonder the country has gone to the
    dogs.


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  • Infamous
    Infamous Posts: 1,130
    I don't think Ian wright is as good as pele.

    :)
  • Aggieboy
    Aggieboy Posts: 3,996
    freehub wrote:
    Does Ronaldo have a red Ferrari (I think F430) with numberplate with CKR on, did not catch the other bit when it went past, Bhima said it was him tho.

    A Ferrari managed to pass Bhima!? :shock: :shock: Had he run out of bananas or had he come to his 5 mile fast paced limit?
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  • Smokin Joe
    Smokin Joe Posts: 2,706
    Can anybody who understands the world of high finance please read the following article from today's DT and tell me how Man United intend to actually stay in business in the long term?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... -ears.html

    Having run a business of my own if my income v debts had been like these I would have put my head in the oven.
  • Frank the tank
    Frank the tank Posts: 6,553
    I live in hope that scumchester will go t*ts up or one of the other "big four". Football needs a reality check, or should that be cheque.
    Tail end Charlie

    The above post may contain traces of sarcasm or/and bullsh*t.
  • finchy
    finchy Posts: 6,686
    Smokin Joe wrote:
    Can anybody who understands the world of high finance please read the following article from today's DT and tell me how Man United intend to actually stay in business in the long term?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... -ears.html

    Having run a business of my own if my income v debts had been like these I would have put my head in the oven.

    They could always sell all of their star players and Old Trafford.
  • Smokin Joe
    Smokin Joe Posts: 2,706
    johnfinch wrote:
    Smokin Joe wrote:
    Can anybody who understands the world of high finance please read the following article from today's DT and tell me how Man United intend to actually stay in business in the long term?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... -ears.html

    Having run a business of my own if my income v debts had been like these I would have put my head in the oven.

    They could always sell all of their star players and Old Trafford.
    It may well come to that. Football clubs appear to be burying their heads in the sand as deep as the banks were, and there is going to be no taxpayers bailout for them.
  • johncp
    johncp Posts: 302
    It may all be off - he's failed the medical!!!!!











    They can't find his b@lls :shock:
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  • zedders
    zedders Posts: 509
    Football will never learn. Its alway more more more. Look at the Satanta saga? They owe millions to the FA, and clubs for TV rights. I heard that the clubs were so desprate to get ahead that all of them spent the TV rights money before they even got it? Now Satanta look like there going to come up short or go bankrupt.

    And this only happened a few years ago with ITV digital. Now clubs are moaning (again) they are going to go out of business! I have no simpathy at all. Clearly they haven't learned anything.

    I use to love football. Lived, slept, breathed, played and watched it. But at the mo I can't stand it. Money men. Agents, money grabbing player, redicuious contacts, no loyalty, cheats, divers, fans not considered, to many games, and the FA, etc, etc.
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  • finchy
    finchy Posts: 6,686
    +1 to zedders
  • gabriel959
    gabriel959 Posts: 4,227
    I am real supporter since I was a child and I too think 80 million is a lot of money. In some respects Football should copy the NBA model and adapt it to Europe accordingly.
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  • Bhima
    Bhima Posts: 2,145
    freehub wrote:
    Does Ronaldo have a red Ferrari (I think F430) with numberplate with CKR on, did not catch the other bit when it went past, Bhima said it was him tho.

    R7 CKS, if I remember correctly. Seen that car round Wilmslow a few times now.

    It was definately him. Tapped on the window and he looked round.
  • Mark Alexander
    Mark Alexander Posts: 2,277
    a REAL shame :lol: Then again, what's worse, Ronaldo being at Man U or Man U having another £80m to spend on a few over priced genius' playboys?


    Oh... Scoucers wearing red...... respect to L4
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  • beverick
    beverick Posts: 3,461
    johnfinch wrote:
    Smokin Joe wrote:
    Can anybody who understands the world of high finance please read the following article from today's DT and tell me how Man United intend to actually stay in business in the long term?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... -ears.html

    Having run a business of my own if my income v debts had been like these I would have put my head in the oven.


    That's exactly what happens when the model fails - just look at Leeds United.

    One bad season (ie not qualifying for the Champions League) and their finances unravelled.

    If you can't service the debt you have to sell assets. The market (namely other football clubs) knows this and your assets, namely the players, depreciate faster than Sterling against the Euro.

    The bubble bursts, squad members end up playing for every other team in the Premier League, the ground is sold the Council (as no-one else will buy it) and one year the Easter fixture is Real Madrid, the next it's Yeovil Town.

    Interestingly the 'debt model' that caused Leeds United to fall from the pedestal currently occupied by England's elite brought one of the UK's major retailers, namely the Burton Group, to its knees in the late 1980's.

    Thank you Mr Ridsdale: fish and all.....

    The main problem for clubs using a highly leveraged model is that debt becomes an addiction which, as the addition grows, has to be fed by greater income just, in the words of The Telegraph, to allow the club stand still.

    It’s why you now have to pay a ransom to get into a game or to watch it live on TV. It's also why pre-season friendly games are no longer against a local amateur side and a couple of 'whipping boys' from Scandinavia on balmy (but invariably wet!) July evening, but after abortive attempts to break into the USA, involve increasingly long trips to South-East Asia.

    Tours of India and China will be next and this room's particular elephant - EPL's '39th game' - will happen at some point.

    It's why most clubs at least 'dabble' in financial services (ie credit cards and loans) and you can get "XXX" FC branded mobile phones and the like.

    It's also why players end up costing £80m.

    In this world of ‘stack it high and sell it quick’ debt the fee paid does not reflect Ronaldo's individual worth to Manchester United but a measure of the risk being taken in allowing him to leave.

    Meanwhile, the issues at the Salford end of the East Lancs Road seem pretty trivial when compared to the plight of Liverpool's "red-men" 40 miles away.

    At least the Glazer family seem to have the correct degree of financial prudence and business accumen to balance along the financial tight-rope they have chosen to tread.

    But whilst Manchester United have trust in the faith of "The Flying Wallendas", Liverpool FC have the Marx Brothers.

    The flaws in the 'modern footballing' model may become all too apparent to LFC in July, and may send a shiver down the spine of the EPL, when they have to refinance a little more than half of the debt held by Manchester United.

    The problem is that whereas Manchester United's financiers can be confident in the solidarity and business acumen of the Glazier family, RBS and Wachovia have to deal with two independent business men who spend most of the time contradicting each other over the club, not speaking to either one another or the club's management, who own disproportionate percentages of the club (which depending on the time of day they may or may not be willing to sell) and one of whom is already fighting administration proceedings in the US.

    I fear that there may be more than one English club with it’s corporate head in the oven in the not too distant future.

    Bob
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    Do you reckon the engine was doing the same cadence as bhima when it went past him.

    Also I reckon ronaldo looks like Mr Hinky, the poo from South park.
  • Infamous
    Infamous Posts: 1,130
    beverick wrote:
    That's exactly what happens when the model fails - just look at Leeds United.

    One bad season (ie not qualifying for the Champions League) and their finances unravelled
    But surely the big four have learned from leeds's mistake and have some kind of backup to stop this happening to them?

    I know arsenal claimed this year that they didn't need to qualify for the CL (financially) and they have more debt than anyone.