Hate figures of 2009: get your nominations in now

NGale

+ 1 Thatcher.

For creating this twisted greedy society we live in now it will always be Thatcher!

berliner

1st The General Public

2nd The Public in General

Northwind

Nuggs wrote:

Special K wrote:

Michael Martin - for services to MPs on the make

That just smacks of scapegoatism to me. For the MPs to turn on him so quickly, after it was they who made the claims in the first place, smacked of double standards.

Yup. He was the speaker of the house, his job was to represent the house, and what he did was speak for them. Now he's the scapegoat, and half the MP's calling out for his blood were on the fiddle, hoping that they can somehow shift the blame. Essentially what we have is this: "We've been bad. You didn't stop us. It's all your fault!" I wouldn't have got away with that with my mum when I was 5, they shouldn't be allowed to get away with it now.

He wasn't a very good speaker, mind, and he's been partly complicit in the whole expenses mess, but to name him as a number one hate figure... Daftness tbh. I've got no great problem with him being forced to step down, but i will if the people who actually created the situation get away with it while he falls. That'd be salt on a wound IMO.

Special K

One of the many reasons why Michael Martin has irritated me so much is the manner of his resignation. If you're going to fall on your sword, do it with grace and dignity. If you're going to apologise then do it properly. No remorse, no responsibility, no contrition, no style. Plus it was nonsensical - did he really mean to say that the house is better when united? His leaving won't unite the house, the house was already pretty united in wanting him gone. The man couldn't navigate basic logic without satirising himself - how could we expect him to continue and be anything other than a hate figure or laughing stock at the very least. The silly tw@

DavidBelcher

Nuggs wrote:

Back to the main subject: my most hated person of 2009 - the media. Okay not strictly speaking a person, but what they did with the Jade saga was diabolical and a sad epitome of Broken Britain and the cult of celebrity.

Not to mention their ever-present knack for scaremongering whenever a new bit of bad global news comes up (credit crunch, swine flu, etc., etc.). As ever, the Daily Blackmail has to be singled out for special attention in this regard.

David

cee

i think Michael Martin is a scapegoat too....

he did infact suggest reforms to the allowances and fees scheme, execpt the rest of the MP's voted against them....

So hes damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

As for Fred the Shred (Goodwin...Ex-Boss of RBS for those who said they didn't know...) he has been turned into the evil wrongdoer of the whole financial system.....in my view...he behaved in accordance with the rules at the time....was contracted for a massive pension....did not accept a bunch of contracted bonuses when leaving but kept his contracted pension.

He did not cause the mess.....the lack of oversight of the financial system caused it....its fine to turn a blind eye when the goings good eh....but soon as something happens....oh its all your fault....

Tell you what...if my contract stipulated a pension package I am damned sure I would not be returning it.

Top of my list this year so far is....actually...i don't have one...I have a group of people..all z-list non-celebrities....get rid of them all and let people be famous for stuff rather than shoving a bottle up their foofanoos on tv.

DavidBelcher

Infamous wrote:

Ugly, fat, talentless, ugly, can't sing, bingo wings, ugly, weird fking thing on her head (she claims its hair?!?) and she's only famous cos of who her dad* is....

You appear to have omitted the stock insult "private school Mockney". I can't stand her either (Allen's most recent chart offering would appear to be a poor man's Kingdom Of Rust rendered in a Chas & Dave style), so more than happy to fix things as appropriate.

David

robmanic1

cee wrote:

foofanoos

Word of the week award goes to......

Le Commentateur

fast as fupp wrote:

thatcher-always thatcher :evil:

Is anyone going to investigate how her luxury home in Dulwich was paid for despite being MP for Finchley? I guess the media is reluctant to dig further back than a dozen years. 8)

Le Commentateur

cee wrote:

i think Michael Martin is a scapegoat too....

he did infact suggest reforms to the allowances and fees scheme, execpt the rest of the MP's voted against them....

So hes damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

For sure he's a convenient scapegoat for the MPs to appear to be doing something, but the Tories have been gunning for him for years, as he was perceived as a stooge, elected, like the Emperor Claudius, because he was reckoned to be a harmless fool. Regarding the election of speaker, its been a tradition to elect the Speaker by alternating between candidates from the governing and opposition parties, so on the retirement of Betty Boothroyd in 2000 the Tories were reasonable in expecting that one of their MPs would be the next in line. However Blairite total politics came into play and the then sizeable labour majority elected one of their own.

Allez Mark

Hazel Blears

Northwind

Le Commentateur wrote:

its been a tradition to elect the Speaker by alternating between candidates from the governing and opposition parties, so on the retirement of Betty Boothroyd in 2000 the Tories were reasonable in expecting that one of their MPs would be the next in line.

The facts don't bear this out at all... They'd alternated for the last 5 speakers, but before that was an uninterrupted run of 5 tories, for about 40 years in a row. This century, only one speaker wasn't drawn from the party in power (Betty Boothroyd), the other 12 times the ruling party put in their own candidate. Not much of a tradition

Mount Pleasant

DavidBelcher wrote:

Nuggs wrote:

Back to the main subject: my most hated person of 2009 - the media. Okay not strictly speaking a person, but what they did with the Jade saga was diabolical and a sad epitome of Broken Britain and the cult of celebrity.

Not to mention their ever-present knack for scaremongering whenever a new bit of bad global news comes up (credit crunch, swine flu, etc., etc.). As ever, the Daily Blackmail has to be singled out for special attention in this regard.

David

Don't forget about the...

Barclay Brothers

Whilst I don't condone the ongoing politician's expenses saga at least we can have our say at election time. Meanwhile the owners of the Telegraph are having a field day as its circulation hits the roof whilst dishing the dirt. Guess what... they are tax exiles, owning an island off Sark in the Channel Islands and using an address in Monaco. Nothing shameful about that then :roll:

DavidBelcher

Mount Pleasant wrote:

Meanwhile the owners of the Telegraph are having a field day as its circulation hits the roof whilst dishing the dirt. Guess what... they are tax exiles, owning an island off Sark in the Channel Islands and using an address in Monaco. Nothing shameful about that then :roll:

Anyone else see the final instalment in Martin Clunes's Islands of Britain documentary? Apparently you can't even fly over the Barclays' private island - regardless of purpose - without prior permission. Miserable gits.
Needless to say, Clunes and his filming crew didn't do much beyond mention the place in passing.

David

fast as fupp

DavidBelcher wrote:

Mount Pleasant wrote:

Meanwhile the owners of the Telegraph are having a field day as its circulation hits the roof whilst dishing the dirt. Guess what... they are tax exiles, owning an island off Sark in the Channel Islands and using an address in Monaco. Nothing shameful about that then :roll:

Anyone else see the final instalment in Martin Clunes's Islands of Britain documentary? Apparently you can't even fly over the Barclays' private island - regardless of purpose - without prior permission. Miserable gits.
Needless to say, Clunes and his filming crew didn't do much beyond mention the place in passing.

David

:shock: :shock: :shock:

do they have their own anti-aircraft battery?