WD-40?

Bubgum
Bubgum Posts: 20
edited April 2009 in MTB workshop & tech
I've read lots of people saying that WD-40 is bad for your bike. I'm not doubting this, since it's not designed for bikes, so it makes sense, but what does it actually do? I've been using WD-40 for a while, and nothing seems wrong. (But there might be something I haven't noticed)

*NOOB ALERT*
Also, this might sound completely idiotic, but I'm just curious as to wether motor oil would be good or bad to lube your chain with? :roll:

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  • stumpyjon
    stumpyjon Posts: 3,983
    Most people make the mistake of using WD-40, GT85 instead of a lube. It's fine for displacing water from chains etc prior to using a proper chain lube. It can also remove grease from bearings etc. if you soak them in the stuff.

    As for lubing the chain, I'd use a specific chain oil (Finishline wet lube is my preference), it may seem expensive but you don't need much and a bottle will last for ages. I might be wrong but I reckon motor oil would have a higher viscosity and would encourage more dirt to stick to the chain, especially in dry dusty conditions when a dry lube is most appropriate.
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  • Bubgum
    Bubgum Posts: 20
    stumpyjon wrote:
    I might be wrong but I reckon motor oil would have a higher viscosity and would encourage more dirt to stick to the chain, especially in dry dusty conditions when a dry lube is most appropriate.

    Ah, that would make sense. I made the mistake of using motorbike lube on my old bike, and it just made the chain sticky, and did the oposite of lubing it. :P \it was like a sticky, waxy foam... Took ages to get off.
  • .blitz
    .blitz Posts: 6,197
    Bubgum wrote:
    I've read lots of people saying that WD-40 is bad for your bike. I'm not doubting this, since it's not designed for bikes, so it makes sense, but what does it actually do?
    The clue is in the name: WD stands for Water Displacement, and 40 is the 40th formula (allegedly) WD-40.

    It displaces moisture, protects against corrosion and is great for cleaning off residue from stickers, tar spots etc.
  • WD 40 does lubricate, but it's too thin to use on a chain, even a bike chain.
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  • Bubgum
    Bubgum Posts: 20
    Thanks for the replies, guys. ^^ they were really helpful, but on closer inspection of my post, I realized that maybe I didn't write my question clearly enough.
    but what does it actually do?

    What I meant was, "What harm does it do to your bike". :oops:

    Again, thanks for the replies. :D
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    It contaminates brake pads and rotors if oversprayed, can thin greases in bearings as it penetrates, rot seals in the forks...
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    the only good thing it has any use for is spraying the inside of steel frames.
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  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    A quite like setting it on fire.
  • Bubgum wrote:
    stumpyjon wrote:
    I might be wrong but I reckon motor oil would have a higher viscosity and would encourage more dirt to stick to the chain, especially in dry dusty conditions when a dry lube is most appropriate.

    Ah, that would make sense. I made the mistake of using motorbike lube on my old bike, and it just made the chain sticky, and did the oposite of lubing it. :P \it was like a sticky, waxy foam... Took ages to get off.

    The spray motorbike lube always wrecked motorbike chains as well! In fact, if you buy a motorbike chain to fit yourself, they tell you to use engine oil to lube them. This works, but for the reason that it's mainly a rust proofer, as the main lubrication it taken care of by internal grease, which is held in place by the o rings. Dirt isn't too much of a problem in this case.
    However, a cycle chain is subject to different stresses & forces, so a specific lube makes sense. The only lube I've tried tht doesn't attract much dirt is Purple Extreme. It also stays on for ages. The only downside is that on 1st application the chain needs to be properly clean. So if you buy a new chain, buy some Purple Extreme with it. It lasts a good few rides and you can tell by touch if it's still there.
  • Bubgum
    Bubgum Posts: 20
    edited April 2009
    Thanks switchback. I'll bear that in mind. :)
    A quite like setting it on fire.

    Oh, a fellow pyromaniac? :D
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    If it burns, I'll burn it. If it doesn't, hell, I'll try anyway!
  • supersonic wrote:
    A quite like setting it on fire.

    In or out of the can?!
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Both! I use it to start bonfires, then put it on the bonfire...
  • Awesome! Are you working your way up to butane gas canisters?
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    Awesome! Are you working your way up to butane gas canisters?

    Nope he is just weaning him self off them.
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  • Maybe we should stop encouraging him...
  • Northwind
    Northwind Posts: 14,675
    Little known fact, WD40 kills the highland midge. Spray it on your arms and watch the little b******s drop dead before they can bite you. Spray it into a cloud of midges (midges don't swarm, they cloud) and watch them fall out of the sky. Good for the soul.

    It's a perfectly good water disperser too, and a decent enough cleaner. The problem isn't really the product, it's the marketing and the way people insist on using it for jobs it can't do.
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  • captainfly
    captainfly Posts: 1,001
    WD40 is really quite good as apentirating fuild for releasing rusted nuts, especialy if you can't use heat, but that is about it apart from spraying a little in a zippo lighter and getting big smoke when you light it though carb cleaner is best for that 8)
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  • .blitz
    .blitz Posts: 6,197
    I made the mistake of using motorbike lube on my old bike, and it just made the chain sticky, and did the oposite of lubing it. It was like a sticky, waxy foam... Took ages to get off
    ...and...
    The spray motorbike lube always wrecked motorbike chains as well!
    Profi Dry Lube for motorcycles is outstanding on bicycle chains. It's as dry as, attracts no dirt and only washes off when you want it to. But at £10.99 a can it's too expensive to waste on a bicycle :wink:
  • Daz555
    Daz555 Posts: 3,976
    The spray motorbike lube always wrecked motorbike chains as well!.
    Bike chains are a pain for high-milers. Even with a Scott-oiler, my high mileage winter riding would much through chains in no time. That's why I went for a shaft drive in the end - service free and always smooth. 8) Belt drives are pretty good in this regard as well - the newer BMW ones are good for 50k miles.
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  • This sounds a bit mean now, but at the time I thought it was brill.

    When I was younger we had a large bush in the rear yard of my mum's house. Anyway, one sunny day I was messing with my bike in the yard and had a can of WD-40 to hand to disperse the water from my chain and clean the headset bearings before re-greasing.
    Back to the bush, which was full of bees and they were rather annoying.
    A cunning plan hatched and I set fire to a jet of WD-40 and directed a short burst into the shrub.
    Instantly, about 40 wingless Bees dropped to the floor and started to run around like loonies.

    I put them out of their misery with my size 9s.

    Like I say, it sounds a bit cruel now but it is another fine use for the wonder stuff that is WD-40!
  • Northwind
    Northwind Posts: 14,675
    captainfly wrote:
    WD40 is really quite good as apentirating fuild for releasing rusted nuts, especialy if you can't use heat

    Not when compared to, for example, an actual penetrating oil ;) Tin of Plusgas should be in every garage, it's so much more effective than WD40 it's not even funny.
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  • memphis32
    memphis32 Posts: 55
    supersonic wrote:
    It contaminates brake pads and rotors if oversprayed, can thin greases in bearings as it penetrates, rot seals in the forks...

    I find it funny that people don't even think about rim brakes anymore...
  • wordnumb
    wordnumb Posts: 847
    Little known fact: when the weather closes in on that dartmoor all-dayer all you need do is launch a can of WD40 right into the darkest cloud, then blast it with a sniper rifle, to disperse the rain.

    When I say fact, it's more of a theory, but as theories go....

    Additionally: it smells good.
  • cee
    cee Posts: 4,553
    not as good as gt85 :wink:
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  • captainfly
    captainfly Posts: 1,001
    Northwind wrote:
    captainfly wrote:
    WD40 is really quite good as apentirating fuild for releasing rusted nuts, especialy if you can't use heat

    Not when compared to, for example, an actual penetrating oil ;) Tin of Plusgas should be in every garage, it's so much more effective than WD40 it's not even funny.

    Cheers for that, I'll get some for the old 125 I've been meaning to restore :wink:
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  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Plus Gas is fantastic. Can unblock your sinuses from 50 paces.
  • captainfly
    captainfly Posts: 1,001
    My sinuses are trashed from too much ephedrine to clear them, well it doesn't make you drowsy :roll: However my nuts are usually seized :o
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