zesty or orange five

ospreys15
ospreys15 Posts: 4
edited March 2009 in MTB buying advice
Hi people, i've been unable to decide on buying a lapierre zesty or an orange five, if anyone can give some advice it would be a great help.The models i'm looking at are the 514 and five pro, both the same price but i also like the 314 zesty but it hasn't got the bolt through.

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  • ride_whenever
    ride_whenever Posts: 13,279
    Test ride them.

    The lapierres are generally overpriced due to the euro, and the oranges due to being an orange. IMHO the lapierre looks a hell of a lot better...
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    As above. Quite different sus sytems too, so one may feel bette for you than the other.
  • gypsy3006
    gypsy3006 Posts: 108
    Ive ridden lots of bikes over the years , all of them what you would consider to be good bikes at the time and the Zesty which I have right now is the best I have ever had.

    Superb handling and scorching top look at :D
    Ride like theres a randy priest behind you !!!!
  • DC01
    DC01 Posts: 333
    Im in the the same dilemma. Was pretty much set on a 5 pro with a few upgrades which totalled out at around £2800. Then was having a browse as you do and saw the review of the Zesty 314. Looked into it a bit further and fallen for the Spicy 516. Now im just a confused mess.
  • maximus69
    maximus69 Posts: 347
    read a review the the other day. orange better downhill and zesty better uphill, but doubt there is much in it.

    give them both a good hard thrashing :shock: to get the best out of them.
    "My life is like a porno-movie, without the sex".
  • dave_hill
    dave_hill Posts: 3,877
    maximus69 wrote:
    read a review the the other day. orange better downhill and zesty better uphill.

    Sure that wasn't the Spicy and the Alpine AM in MBR?
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  • dave_hill
    dave_hill Posts: 3,877
    Test ride them.

    The lapierres are generally overpriced due to the euro, and the oranges due to being an orange. IMHO the lapierre looks a hell of a lot better...

    ...but it's French where the Orange is British.

    The British bike will make you feel great about being last up the hill (at least you tried, which is more imprtant than winning), whereas the French one will cause you give up half way and complain about how it isn't fair how steep the hill is.

    The British bike will make you more attractive to the opposite sex and increase your beer capacity and ability to fight with lamp-posts. The French one smells of garlic and has a sneaking respect for the Germans.
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  • maximus69
    maximus69 Posts: 347
    dave_hill wrote:
    maximus69 wrote:
    read a review the the other day. orange better downhill and zesty better uphill.

    Sure that wasn't the Spicy and the Alpine AM in MBR?

    ah, could of been.

    lapierre is better anyways, mine doesn't smell of garlic!! and it doesn't look like a piece of scaffold like the orange.

    i looked at the 5 just thought it looked shite imo. expect it rides nice though
    "My life is like a porno-movie, without the sex".
  • dave_hill
    dave_hill Posts: 3,877
    maximus69 wrote:
    mine doesn't smell of garlic!!

    Yes it does, you're just used to it!!! :D
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  • maximus69
    maximus69 Posts: 347
    wish i rode it enough to notice it doesn't smell!!

    feet are shot at the mo and i can hardly walk. cheap zesty soon, minus garlic smell and attitude
    "My life is like a porno-movie, without the sex".
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Oranges have zest don't they?
  • pdid
    pdid Posts: 1,065
    Save yourself a grand and get a Meta :twisted:
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
  • grantway
    grantway Posts: 1,430
    Two good bikes, MBR done a test on these two and two others last year
    Mag test March 2008

    In the verdict section of the mag it says
    Lapierre Zesty
    With its slack head angle, long wheelbase and plush susspension, the lapierre Zesty 514
    is easily the most (all round bike) on test and feels simiar to a Specailized Enduro SL
    from the get-go it screams high speed, rough terrain with a good measure of gravity pull.
    However, thats not to say its a DH rig, as the Zesty is light enough to be pedialled up the steepest assecnts,even it is not as swift as some of the others here.
    If you feel over terrained or under skilled, you'll love the invincibility that the Zesty oozes
    However some riders found the Isolated feel of the Zesty robbed them of the sensation
    of speed on the average uk trails

    Zesty scored a 9

    Orange 5 Proo
    At face value the Orange 5 isn't as stylish as some of the other bikes on test, but once you've ridden it you'll never look at it in the same light again.
    Handling,stiffnes,balance,geometry and realiability don't come better than on the
    Orange 5, and together they make for an insirational ride bike. Yes, the suspension
    is simple, but it is also very effective so don't knock it until you've actually tried it.
    As a package the Orange 5 Pro can be ridden well beyond its design remit.
    So get yourself a wider bar and be prepared to go eye wateringly fast.

    Orange 5 Pro scored 10

    Orange have redesigned the 5 for this year by narrowing the downtube
    and adding a gusset to make the main frame even stronger and done more work
    to the Rear arm too.
    One thing to look out for is the new relaxed head angle by 1 degree, how this compares
    to the 08 frame I dont know.

    Best thing is to try and see what one works for you.
  • DC01
    DC01 Posts: 333
    Been looking into this a bit more. For my Orange build spec the equivelant Zesty would be the 714. Its £600 more than my planned build, give or take the xtr rear derailleur and chain set. Also Zesty review in WMB comments on long top tube, on the 46cm frame. the 18" 5 frame top tube is 2mm longer than the Zesty. I know other factors effect the overall feel, stem, bars etc. Has anyone had this long at the top feel with the Orange? Im 6ft with a 33" inside leg and found the 18" five i tested pretty perfect. Short enough feel to be flickable, but long enough when you needed it to be to keep it stable and planted. Still the Orange for me.
  • I'm 5'11" and have an 18" Orange with 90mm stem. I did roll the bars back as I felt the reach was a little long and I was over the front wheel a bit too much. Saying that though, the 09 Orange I saw in a shop recently had a 70mm stem so wouldn't be an issue now.
  • dunker
    dunker Posts: 1,456
    considered a giant trance x1 or x0? or even a ktm lycan?

    out of those two i think the orange is better vfm, lapierre seems overpriced and under specced for a £2500 bike
  • maximus69
    maximus69 Posts: 347
    zesty 514 is £2300. whats a pro 5 £2100 min?

    would say say the specs are pretty similar.
    "My life is like a porno-movie, without the sex".
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    There are loads of bikes at this price - and to be honest, none of them or disasters! Just varying takes on geometry and set up, ehcih goes back to my first post - test them.

    Orange 5 is a single pivot, Zesty has a virtual pivot point in a different location. This will feel different!