Bordry looking to catch more

Kléber
Kléber Posts: 6,842
edited March 2009 in Pro race
A story out from France today says the AFLD has been taking hair samples from sportsmen to check them for steroid abuse. This method is not approved by WADA and therefore cannot result in prosecution but it can allow the agency to target its testing where suspicions arise. There is a urine test but it catches cheats only in a 24-48 hour window after they inject the steroids.

Only a small sample have been tested but 7 out of 32 professional football players showed traces of DHEA or testosterone or one in five. One in six amateur cyclists and rugby players showed similar signs and in professional cycling, 4 of of 37 samples revealed the same signs.

These results are from older samples taken in 2008. But the AFLD was taking hair samples from some riders in Paris-Nice.

Comments

  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    "# Yet another "surprise" anti-doping control. 24th one. This one from the French authorities. Urine, blood, and hair! Classic..about 23 hours ago from TwitterBerry "

    Guess who...
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    And he was "surprised" at the hair sample...
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • Bronzie
    Bronzie Posts: 4,927
    So you know they have a travelling barber at the "village depart" on the Tour...........guessing he may not be so busy this year :wink:
  • DavMartinR
    DavMartinR Posts: 897
    Wonder if Schumacher's Mekon look will be the height of fashion in the peleton this year? :)
  • micron
    micron Posts: 1,843
    The other fashion in the peloton used to be for bleaching hair - doesn't work but I can't help remembering the 98 Festina team were all blondes...in fact I believe a lot of fun was had with Brochard's hair samples, seeing as they gave a complete map of what he'd been up to.

    No wonder Armstrong's hair seems to have gone grey...
  • dave_1
    dave_1 Posts: 9,512
    how quickly do anabolics clear the system?
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,722
    They must be spending more time micro dosing with such care and devising ways of avoiding a positive, than they do riding a bike!
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    Dave_1 wrote:
    how quickly do anabolics clear the system?
    As I wrote above, the testers have 24-48 hours to catch the user after they inject it, after that it's too late. But the hair sample depends on hair length, the longer the hair the further they can go back.
  • dave_1
    dave_1 Posts: 9,512
    Kléber wrote:
    Dave_1 wrote:
    how quickly do anabolics clear the system?
    As I wrote above, the testers have 24-48 hours to catch the user after they inject it, after that it's too late. But the hair sample depends on hair length, the longer the hair the further they can go back.

    am sure LA wouldn't be dum enough to try it given he will likely be tested at any point within a week or 10 days...if his report of 24 is to be believed..
  • dave_1
    dave_1 Posts: 9,512
    from twitter link of LA he hair test "troubled him quite a lot," said the agency's director of doping controls, Jean-Pierre Verdy. Hair is clipped with scissors, and six clumps each the diameter of a pencil were taken in all, he said. "Sometimes, it leaves holes," Verdy said.

    LA complains that AFLD is commenting on things that should be confidential...think this is the first thing he's said in a while I agree with...
  • teagar
    teagar Posts: 2,100
    If you shave your head will they go elsewhere for it...?
    Note: the above post is an opinion and not fact. It might be a lie.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,722
    Dave_1 wrote:
    from twitter link of LA he hair test "troubled him quite a lot," said the agency's director of doping controls, Jean-Pierre Verdy. Hair is clipped with scissors, and six clumps each the diameter of a pencil were taken in all, he said. "Sometimes, it leaves holes," Verdy said.

    LA complains that AFLD is commenting on things that should be confidential...think this is the first thing he's said in a while I agree with...

    Like team mates needing to learn a lot, you mean. :wink:

    Not really a fair comparison, I know, as this is an agency.
    Still, he's been guilty of the exact same thing.

    There seems to have been an expose on this subject, today, from Hungary:-
    A lot of players are doping in French football

    MTI - Hungarian national news agency

    Wed. 18 March 2009, 14:33

    French experts have detected significant doping usage in French football through studies which were conducted on samples obtained from hair strands of football players in 2008. The French Anti-Doping Agency (AFLD), which published results of the analysis on Wednesday, established that the footballers had clearly been doping when they took age-inhibiting - and thus physical condition-improving - hormones (so-called DHEA), with the objective of performance enhancement.
    This can only be detected with difficulty in blood and urine samples, however this anabolic steroid - which also leaves traces in the skin and nails -, is not only "popular" in football in France but also - according to the testimony of the studies - in other sports, including rugby, athletics and cycling. According to the results of the tests, conducted using the AFLD "hair strand" method, 16.5% of the samples taken were positive. Within this, French footballers produced the most cases: 21.8% of those sampled had been doping. The "silver medal" went to amateur cyclists (17.6%), athletics was third (13.22) and professional cycling fourth (10.8%)
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • dave_1
    dave_1 Posts: 9,512
    Dave_1 wrote:
    from twitter link of LA he hair test "troubled him quite a lot," said the agency's director of doping controls, Jean-Pierre Verdy. Hair is clipped with scissors, and six clumps each the diameter of a pencil were taken in all, he said. "Sometimes, it leaves holes," Verdy said.

    LA complains that AFLD is commenting on things that should be confidential...think this is the first thing he's said in a while I agree with...

    Like team mates needing to learn a lot, you mean. :wink:

    Not really a fair comparison, I know, as this is an agency.
    Still, he's been guilty of the exact same thing.

    There seems to have been an expose on this subject, today, from Hungary:-
    A lot of players are doping in French football

    MTI - Hungarian national news agency

    Wed. 18 March 2009, 14:33

    French experts have detected significant doping usage in French football through studies which were conducted on samples obtained from hair strands of football players in 2008. The French Anti-Doping Agency (AFLD), which published results of the analysis on Wednesday, established that the footballers had clearly been doping when they took age-inhibiting - and thus physical condition-improving - hormones (so-called DHEA), with the objective of performance enhancement.
    This can only be detected with difficulty in blood and urine samples, however this anabolic steroid - which also leaves traces in the skin and nails -, is not only "popular" in football in France but also - according to the testimony of the studies - in other sports, including rugby, athletics and cycling. According to the results of the tests, conducted using the AFLD "hair strand" method, 16.5% of the samples taken were positive. Within this, French footballers produced the most cases: 21.8% of those sampled had been doping. The "silver medal" went to amateur cyclists (17.6%), athletics was third (13.22) and professional cycling fourth (10.8%)

    sounds like AHLD are spot on and not out to get 1 American guy at all....am sure LA will have been prepared for a hair sample given the Coifidis case in 04 ...though I think Vasseur had the verdict of cocaine/drug use overturned when he challanged his hair sample test result