avid juicy bleed kit, brass connector screw size.

at106
at106 Posts: 71
edited June 2009 in MTB workshop & tech
Can somone tell me the size of the little nipple bit that connects the syrienge to the caliper, and lever (m3,m5 sizes etc)

Thanks At106

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  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    i know the size is in the manual. as i have given it out on here before. off the top of my head? later.
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  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    cant find the info. but the OD of the thread is 4.8mm
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  • stubs
    stubs Posts: 5,001
    If the Outside diameter of the thread is 4.8mm then that is an M5 thread

    When you measure the outside diameter it comes up slightly smaller than the M size
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  • at106
    at106 Posts: 71
    So if i bought something like th_images.jpg
    that in the size M5 would i be able to use it as a bleeding kit if i got a syrienge etc?[/img][/url]
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    well you would need two and two syringes bit it might work.
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  • ThanksBye
    ThanksBye Posts: 519
    On this topic does anyone know the size needed for a Magura Clara
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  • at106
    at106 Posts: 71
    nicklouse wrote:
    well you would need two and two syringes bit it might work.

    Ive already got 2 syrienges and the connectors are about £1 each so its a lot cheaper than the proper kit. So if i buy 2 m5/4.8 mm connectors they should fit.
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    they might.

    dont forget the O rings.
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  • at106
    at106 Posts: 71
    nicklouse wrote:
    they might.

    dont forget the O rings.

    ill give it a go next week.
  • and hose clamps
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  • sniper68
    sniper68 Posts: 2,910
    and hose clamps
    You don't need the hose clamps,or the stupid avid bleed video with its "degas" the fluid rubbish..Just connect the syringes and push fluid from the caliper to the lever,then back.repeat a couple of times to make sure all the air is out.
    Sorted.

    Avid have tried to over complicate things to justify £30 for a bleed kit.
  • i disagree. its lots easier with the proper bleed kit. whats the point in bodging something to gether when you could get the real deal for not that much money and after youve bled each brake its paied for itself. with avids having a rep for being pissy to bleed anyway why add more variables into it?
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  • sniper68
    sniper68 Posts: 2,910
    i disagree. its lots easier with the proper bleed kit. whats the point in bodging something to gether when you could get the real deal for not that much money and after youve bled each brake its paied for itself. with avids having a rep for being pissy to bleed anyway why add more variables into it?
    I have the proper bleed kit,Avids are simple to bleed IF you don't use the pointless Avid video.You don't need the clamps or the over complicated bleed procedure that Avid recommend.Just bleed as you would any other brake...simple.5 mins.
    Avids only have a reputation for being finicky because people follow the daft bleed procedure.
  • well ive always followed the *daft* procedure and never had any issues
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  • sniper68
    sniper68 Posts: 2,910
    well ive always followed the *daft* procedure and never had any issues
    Neither have i,but then when someone pointed out to me that it was "a bit pointless doing all that,why not just do it like this"it all became clear.Why waste time?I can bleed both my brakes in the time it takes to "degas" the bloody fluid as per Avid video :lol:
  • imo they feel better after you have got the air out the fluid
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  • sniper68
    sniper68 Posts: 2,910
    Yes thats the whole point of bleeding brakes in general,they won't work if not bled :lol:
    Question for you. Do you degas car fluid...no,motorbike fluid....no,is it the same fluid....yes.....are Avid taking the piss....yes :lol:
  • ThanksBye
    ThanksBye Posts: 519
    AT106 where did u get those connectors from?
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  • What is the simple way to bleed them? (same as other brakes)
    I spent hours the other night, and still they're not very good!
  • M6TTF
    M6TTF Posts: 602
    I followed the avid procedure, it does seem a little long-winded but I did notice I got more air out of the lever doing it that way. As for not doing it on cars or bikes, they're an open system, the avids aren't, so maybe that's why
  • sniper68
    sniper68 Posts: 2,910
    edited June 2009
    All i've ever done(after a mate pointed out that the Avid bleed video is bollox)is fill the bottom syringe with fluid,tie the lever to the bar and push the fluid through.This forces the old fluid and air into the top syringe.Takes 30 seconds...done.Did them once on the old brakes and did the new(warranty replacements)as they're crap when they come from the factory.
    I'm fitting braided hoses when they arrive and i'll do the same again.Why spend half an hour when it can be done in a couple of minutes?
  • stubs
    stubs Posts: 5,001
    These instructions are for Formula brakes but they are exactly the same system as Avid so work the same I found them to be clearer than the Avid instructions

    http://www.formulabrakeusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/bleed_instructions_final.pdf
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  • pirwin1
    pirwin1 Posts: 248
    Those formula instructions are clearer. I'll give them a shot next time I need to bleed my brakes I think.
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    pirwin1 wrote:
    Those formula instructions are clearer. I'll give them a shot next time I need to bleed my brakes I think.

    do you have formula brakes?
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  • M6TTF wrote:
    I followed the avid procedure, it does seem a little long-winded but I did notice I got more air out of the lever doing it that way. As for not doing it on cars or bikes, they're an open system, the avids aren't, so maybe that's why
    dunno what avids your running but my juicys are open.....
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  • pirwin1
    pirwin1 Posts: 248
    nicklouse wrote:
    pirwin1 wrote:
    Those formula instructions are clearer. I'll give them a shot next time I need to bleed my brakes I think.

    do you have formula brakes?

    No. I have Avids, but I was going with what stubs said. Are they not the same system then?
    The instructions seem pretty similar from what I can remember of the avid ones when I bled my brakes after shortening the hoses.
  • stubs
    stubs Posts: 5,001
    No. I have Avids, but I was going with what stubs said. Are they not the same system then?
    The instructions seem pretty similar from what I can remember of the avid ones when I bled my brakes after shortening the hoses.

    Formula and Avid work exactly the same the only difference being in the position of the bleed screw.
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