Stuck between choices of wheels.

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  • spanielsson
    spanielsson Posts: 776
    willhub wrote:
    spanielsson wrote:
    You could just swap your Garmin for my Race Lites......... I'll even leave my Pro 3 Race tyres on.........

    The garmin is very important I cant trade that. I bidded on those race lites on Ebay, wont go higher than 90 on em tho so probs wont get em.

    I was joking Will!!!!!!
  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    Lol, Will everyone will outbid you know you've told them how much you've bid.

    No wonder I keep calling you a n00b :wink:

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    CRC are doing a set of RS20's for 109 quid, maybe they would be worth it?

    I don't know if they better than R560's at 90 quid but I just don't know about the R560's, I mean the spokes they such hassle what where shimano thinking, different spokes for left rear, right rear and all that.
  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    willhub wrote:
    I mean the spokes they such hassle what where shimano thinking, different spokes for left rear, right rear and all that.

    Surely all rear wheels that are dished have different length spokes on the driveside and nondriveside?
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    I know but they seem to be hard to get hold of.
  • amaferanga
    amaferanga Posts: 6,789
    2 x Open Pros using the same spokes (you can reuse the spokes especially if they've only done 2000 miles) would cost about £60. Then pick up a wheel jig from somewhere (can be had new for about £30) and get hold of Sheldon Browns wheel building guide from his website. Learn how to build wheels then every 2000 miles you just have to replace rims instead of whole wheels. Building good wheels really isn't that difficult.

    You know it makes sense :lol:
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  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    amaferanga wrote:
    You know it makes sense :lol:

    Lol, I think Will has got the sense to get someone else to make the wheel for him. A quality handbuilt wheel is really all about the wheelbuilder, and Will at the moment doesn't really want a wheel that may possibly be slightly unreliable. I'm sure when he's a bit older and has a few sets of spare wheels he could afford to try his hand at wheel building. At the moment I'd probably recommend that he didn't do it.

    It might be easy, but if he get's the tensions slightly wrong and the wheels go out of true, he might buckle the rim, break a spoke - I know they are worst case scenarios, but Will can't really afford to learn by his mistakes.
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  • amaferanga
    amaferanga Posts: 6,789
    Fair enough, but its not rocket science. I have no reason to believe I'm in any way naturally gifted at wheel building, but I haven't broken a spoke or had problems with wheels going out of true in the 4 years I've been doing my own wheels.

    If you start with quality components and take your time I believe that (almost) anyway can build a dependable wheel and since Will seems to get through rims in only 2000 miles its gonna work out miles cheaper in the long run.
    More problems but still living....
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    I don't really want to build a wheel myself, think it would be cheaper to get a pre built one, when I have more money then I can build my own wheel as if I fail I can pay someone to do it for me.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    I don't really want to build a wheel myself, think it would be cheaper to get a pre built one, when I have more money then I can build my own wheel as if I fail I can pay someone to do it for me.
  • superlav
    superlav Posts: 3
    Go with the Mavics, they'll alst a whole lot longer that the Shimano WH550's.

    I managed to wear a hole in the braking surface of these after about 18-24 months of commuting and some touring :cry:

    Replaced with same, both sets had probelms with the spokes coming loose, especially on the front.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    Wonder if the R560's are any better than the R550's tho?

    Bear in mind my Mavics worn out after 5 or 6 months, around 3000miles I'd have said.
  • storck
    storck Posts: 64
    I have new unused Askium wheels will sell for £90 if buyer pays for postage.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    storck wrote:
    I have new unused Askium wheels will sell for £90 if buyer pays for postage.

    What year Aksium?

    Where are you located?
  • storck
    storck Posts: 64
    Still to pick wheels up but believe 2008/9 models im in Scotland,to be honest i got them as my RYS are getting repaired so Mavic have given me them as good will gesture ,local shop keen buy from me but rather sell to someone who needs them,Wiggle price is £145 thats with 10% off so good price to someone.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    Hi.

    I am very interested at the moment, but if you can hold onto them a couple more days? I'm wanting to do abit of research into them.

    As far as I'm aware they are single eyelet? Well at least the older ones where, not it says H2 Technology, whatever that is?

    The weight, will they be heavier than my Open Pro's on Tiagra hubs?, the main concern is heaviness that will slow me down, I've been told it wont make any difference but would like to hear from other people.

    Maybe a LBS would weigh my wheels for free?

    Also how long would it take through the post? I'm in manchester but would have them sent to my home (if I decided say tommorow I wanted them and it would not be possible to get them sent to Manchester in time for Saturday) as that is where I will be.
  • storck
    storck Posts: 64
    As i said still to pick wheels up,imlooking to gointo Edinburgh Sat to do so will know more about wheels then,soon as i have them will get back to you if interested if not no probs i would imagine postage between 2-3 days depending what service is used when posting in meantime good luck if you find alternative.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    storck wrote:
    As i said still to pick wheels up,imlooking to gointo Edinburgh Sat to do so will know more about wheels then,soon as i have them will get back to you if interested if not no probs i would imagine postage between 2-3 days depending what service is used when posting in meantime good luck if you find alternative.

    Oh yea sorry forgot about that bit.

    Well I'd be interested when you get them, and if I decide to buy them if you could post 1st class that would be great, seen some wheels on the bay, 1st class they charged a tenner so I'd be happy with that.

    If I loose this bid on ebay which I probably will, as long as the freehub is Shimano/SRAM 9 speed compatible I'll av em off you.
  • simon_e
    simon_e Posts: 1,707
    willhub wrote:
    I'm wanting to do abit of research into them
    ....
    As far as I'm aware they are single eyelet?
    ...
    The weight, will they be heavier than my Open Pro's on Tiagra hubs?,
    :roll:
    Too much fretting. Relax Will! There are loads of people happy with Aksiums. They should be OK.

    Otherwise get another pair of Open Pro built up.
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  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    storck

    You sure don't want to give the R-SYS to Will when you get them back and you keep the more aero more reliable aksiums?
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  • Al_38
    Al_38 Posts: 277
    I have a pair of r-550s on one of my bikes - seem almost completely bombproof to me. Haven't had to true them yet and have done 6000+ miles on them. Have had to replace the freehub in that time though and I also found that the sealing in the rear hub can be a bit crap (found some water in mine at one point and I dont think i cleaned the bike with a pressure washer / hosepipe)

    Getting new spokes might be a bit of a pain but I cant really see them breaking under normal use as they are all straight pull and each spoke doesnt touch any other spoke.
  • storck
    storck Posts: 64
    can only say sorry but having called bike shop in Edin regards my intentions to pick wheels up on Sat,i did promise them first refusal on them although they didnt seem too keen at the time they have put them on anew bike build,all i can say is sorry as i said before as i have got them via Mavic repairing my RSYs it would have been good to see you get them good luck with your wheels Mavic are good strong wheels well suited to our bad roads,cheers again.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    Ahhh man that sucks :(, oh well.

    Well I'm thinking about the RS20's now, apparently they outperform the Aksiums but I'm abit wary.

    I don't know if this would be a problem anymore especially as I only weight 11.5 stone:

    http://forums.roadbikereview.com/showth ... mano+rs-10

    Either those or the Aksiums, I'd buy the Fulcrums but they are too noisy apparently.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    Ordered the Aksiums from http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Absolute-Cycles

    126 quid, ordered at 1am last night, apparently shipped around 8:35 this morning 8)

    Thats shop class performance from Ebay sellers 8)
  • softlad
    softlad Posts: 3,513
    willhub wrote:
    126 quid, ordered at 1am last night, apparently shipped around 8:35 this morning 8)

    so its now 10.15 - have they arrived yet..? ;)
  • alfablue
    alfablue Posts: 8,497
    why are they so slow? Is that usual? :wink:
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    They wont arrive until Saturday or even Monday, using crapforce 24 I think.
  • fooshnicken
    fooshnicken Posts: 84
    Have a look on eBay, I got a good set of Shimano RS20's from an eBay shop for a reasonable price.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    fooshnicken wrote:
    Have a look on eBay, I got a good set of Shimano RS20's from an eBay shop for a reasonable price.

    I was going to order a set of RS20's from CRC for £109 but I thought no, it's not worth the risk, apparently if the spokes break they are notoriously hard to get hold of and on other forums I've seen bad things about them.

    I remember my RS10's when the spoke broke, no wonder they wanted to give me different wheels, I wanted wheels back ASAP and those Shimano ones would have been a massive faf about especially getting a new spoke.
  • Mettan
    Mettan Posts: 2,103
    Al_38 wrote:
    I have a pair of r-550s on one of my bikes - seem almost completely bombproof to me. Haven't had to true them yet and have done 6000+ miles on them. Have had to replace the freehub in that time though and I also found that the sealing in the rear hub can be a bit crap (found some water in mine at one point and I dont think i cleaned the bike with a pressure washer / hosepipe)

    Yep, I found that - great wheels for the price - I ran a pair of R550's for a year-ish - no problems - rear wheel was slightly out of true (but then again it came out of the factory like that - never went worse after that - didn't get the spokes tensioned) - they perform well-enough (again, for the cost). And according to that French? aero-chart thingy they're fairly "aero" (particularly for a budget wheel). (16 spokes front, simple oval bladed shape, modest rim).

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