Pro race 3, Continental Grand Prix 4000S or Schwalbe Stelvio
The Hedgehog
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If anyone has exeperience of any of these 3 road tyres I'd like to hear it.
I'm looking for a very fast tyre which has good puncture protection. The tyres will be used from Spring to Summer, ie mainly dry conditions.
Thanks.
I'm looking for a very fast tyre which has good puncture protection. The tyres will be used from Spring to Summer, ie mainly dry conditions.
Thanks.
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Vittoria Rubino Pro - none of those you've listed are particularly good on puncture protection, and the Rubinos will probably outlast any of them, as well as being cheaper and a similar weight.0
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How about the Scwalbe Ultremo?, Bikeradar gave them a good review http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/components/tyres/product/ultremo-tyres-23173 and you can get them around the same price as either the Pro Race 3 or GP4000s.'Hello to Jason Isaacs'0
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Except they're made of tissue paper by comparison. Ultremos aren'y an every day tyre - there's a 7 or 8 page long thread about them on weight weenies because so many people have had trouble with them.schlepcycling wrote:How about the Scwalbe Ultremo?, Bikeradar gave them a good review http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/components/tyres/product/ultremo-tyres-23173 and you can get them around the same price as either the Pro Race 3 or GP4000s.0 -
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Rich-Ti wrote:
Except they're made of tissue paper by comparison. Ultremos aren'y an every day tyre - there's a 7 or 8 page long thread about them on weight weenies because so many people have had trouble with them.schlepcycling wrote:How about the Scwalbe Ultremo?, Bikeradar gave them a good review http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/components/tyres/product/ultremo-tyres-23173 and you can get them around the same price as either the Pro Race 3 or GP4000s.
I can only give advice based on personal experience and I've used them as an everyday tyre for training and racing in Spring, Summer and Autumn and not had a problem with them'Hello to Jason Isaacs'0 -
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I speak from experience too - the only tyre I've ever punctured with and I had a bubble of innertube appear through the sidewall of one of them.schlepcycling wrote:I can only give advice based on personal experience and I've used them as an everyday tyre for training and racing in Spring, Summer and Autumn and not had a problem with them0 -
The Hedgehog wrote:If anyone has exeperience of any of these 3 road tyres I'd like to hear it.
I'm looking for a very fast tyre which has good puncture protection. The tyres will be used from Spring to Summer, ie mainly dry conditions.
Thanks.
Stelvio Plus is what you want mate.
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stelvio is a different beast to the PR3 and GP4000S (by all accounts, though this is the one I haven't ridden).
Stelvio is a rival to the Michelin Krylion Carbon ... it is very puncture resistant but slower and heavier than the PR3 or the GP4000S. It is a great touring tyre or training tyre if you don't care about going slightly slower on training rides (I do b/c I am competitive with other people).
PR3 is good for speed, grip and reasonable puncture resistance. durability is not great.0 -
Had a pair of Stevio's since June, and ridden on them constantly since, in all weathers and over some pretty terrible roads in winter conditions, and they've been pretty good.
Haven't had a single puncture until the rear got trashed at the weekend. Something completely killed it by ripping out the side wall - think it might have been a tiger judging by the damage. The front is still pretty much unmarked though.
Grip has been good.
Rear now has RP3 on it and so far so good - can't tell any real difference, but it's early days and haven't exactly been pushing the boundaries of space/time; it's a bit cold, innit.It doesn't get any easier, but I don't appear to be getting any faster.0 -
I've had the Stelvio's since August and am having to replace them just this week as something ripped a gash in the side wall on the rear wheel. They came supplied with my first road bike and I was a bit alarmed when they started to "split" after a week, but apparently getting "flint" gashes is the norm for skinny road tyres? Perhaps I always got them on my larger 28s commuter tyres but just never noticed then. Anyhoo. Despite the gashes I've only had 2 punctures in 6 months on the stelvios - but I don't know if that's good innings or not? Plan to replace them with 25s Gator Skins or Armadillos, whatever is in stock, until nicer weather approaches.________________________________
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still not sure but the PR3's seem to get plenty of really positive feedback, if you're not too worried about durability, which I'm not as I intend to swap them over at the end of the Summer.
Thanks again to all responded.0 -
still not sure but the PR3's seem to get plenty of really positive feedback, if you're not too worried about durability, which I'm not as I intend to swap them over at the end of the Summer.
Thanks again to all responded.0 -
I invested in a new pair of Conti GP4 seasons (supposedly a tougher version of the 4000) just before Christmas, less than 200 miles later, the rear has been punctured - sliced clean through - 3 times by little 'flinty nicks' (typical of the roads at this time of year) and the beading is now coming away. Not very impressed, at nearly 60 pounds a pair...as an emergency measure, the LBS offered me a Stelvio for the back, which is in now, looks OK but only time will tell.
I've really been after the Krylions as these are mooted as a 'best of both worlds' type tyre - but getting them in 25c has been a problem.
Of course, personal experience is going to colour anybody's opinion of a tyre, I might just have been unlucky, but my particular commuting route (15 miles each way over a variety of urban and rural roads) is pretty demanding and of the wide range of tyres I've tried so far the best for durability have been spesh armadillos (a bit heavy duty to really love them), the best for speed being Vitorria Rubino Pro...(other tyres I've ruled out as flaky include Bontrager Racelites,. Strangely enough, Cnoti Gatorskins weren't too bad, just didn't inspire confidence in the wet)0 -
How many threads on these tyres are there, one every two days? If you look back not very far you'll see posts waxing lyrical about all 3 tyres and posts with riders using PR3s all winter with no problems. No ones ever said Rubino Pros are better though, that's a new one.Pegoretti
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I've had Vittoria R P's destroy themselves after a week or so when the sidewalls bulged. I wouldn't trust them again.
Vredstein Fortezza Tricomps are fantastic to ride, very quick and comfortable due to the high thread count, but the downsdies are they are very hard to fit on (IME) anything other than Mavic rims and this makes them a PITA given that the puncture protection is not great.
My current choice is the Pro Race 3. Superb tyres - soft compound for sure, so expect a bit of cutting up, but great puncture protection for the weight and with latex tubes they feel like tubulars. Superb bit of kit.0 -
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You can get the 25s from bike24.net alansmithy, black/grey and they take about a week to come. Worth it though imo for such a good tyre.0
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yep the gp 4000s are superb and last years. well mine have done 3 summers and still in good shape, though looking oldish and will replace with same this spring time. Go buy...0
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I've used Stelvios and Vittoria Rubinos and PR3s. I do a daily commute and the Vittoria Rubinos aren't up to it in my view - punctured too often. Stelvios were great. PR3s are okay but not grippy enough in the wet for me (I had a bad accident and been a bit nervous since). Currently I am using Michelin Elyrium (can't remember how it's spelt) which are excellent in terms of puncture resistance but a bit slow. I'd go for Stelvios if I were you.0
