Looking for a new wheelset.

Anonymous

Hi.

I am looking for a new wheelset, don't really want to go much over 200 quid.

I don't know if then the Mavic Open Pro's would be the best to go with again? As the set I have at the moment have done over 2000 miles, never needed to be trued once and have been truly brilliant wheels.

Any ideas?

Also anywhere to get cheap wheel for around 50 quid or under? I just need a rear one for my old Carrera bike as the back wheel is almost totally knackered and at breaking point.


Thanks
Will

Slow Downcp

Is there anything wrong with your current wheels?

Anonymous

They are going slightly rounded on the rims. And the rear hub is abit dodgy inside, think it needs servicing and I'm not prepared to pay at a shop, I'll only do it myself as it would be cheaper but that seems complicated looking at parktools website, when I turn the wheel, pedals not moving of course, it quickly stops turning like it's stiff inside.

Might need a new rear hub apparently according to parktools site and also since the wheels are slightly rounded/concave it must mean they need replacing.

Lagavulin

willhub wrote:

Also anywhere to get cheap wheel for around 50 quid or under? I just need a rear one for my old Carrera bike as the back wheel is almost totally knackered and at breaking point.

£16.60 overbudget but Parkers are selling RS10 rears with 25% off.

Anonymous

I had RS10 before, a spoke snapped after about 400 miles, and I don't think they are as strong as these Open Pro's tbh.

Slow Downcp

It's a fairly easy job to strip and clean the hub internals - may need new bearings, but the cost will be a fraction of new wheels. You shouldn't need new rims after 2,000 miles unless it's all downhill with the brakes on.

Anonymous

Slow Downcp wrote:

It's a fairly easy job to strip and clean the hub internals - may need new bearings, but the cost will be a fraction of new wheels. You shouldn't need new rims after 2,000 miles unless it's all downhill with the brakes on.

But when I run my fingers along the rim I can feel concave shape.

Parktools made the hub service look really complicated, having to soak the stuff in solvant or something, oil? I don't have that quantity!.

I think all I need to buy for that is some cone wrenches but I dunno, seems a scary job.

Slow Downcp

Like all jobs, it seems daunting the first time (and expensive if you have to buy the tools). Once you have the tools however, you can do all you repairs for however long the tool lasts - if you get decent tools you'll get years out of them.

I got into cycling seriously 20+ years ago and the guy who owned the local chippy was also a keen cyclist - started taking me on rides every Sunday and showed me how to strip down and service everything on my bike. Since then the only repair I've paid for is £7 for a wheel rebuild following a crash (not learnt how to build wheels).

Is there anyone at your club that could show you how to do the hub for a few beers?

Anonymous

I don't know, in York maybe but I'm going back to Manchester tomorrow and I don't know anyone there that would help me do this as it probably would take a long time. The only reason am worried about servicing the hub is incase I break something and that is something that would cause big problems.

I mean what do I need? what grease? I have a tube of lithium grease, this white stuff but don't know if that is ok for the hub.

SCR Pedro

Hey there,

Have you had a look at the Parktools Guide?

I did my front hub last week. I figured there was only one way to learn :shock:

I also used the white lithium grease and I've had no problems.

Pedro

Anonymous

Yes lol the parktools guide is what got me worried!.

Makes it look complicated and I don't have anything to soak the parts in.

softlad

willhub wrote:

and I don't have anything to soak the parts in.

seriously - you don't have access to anything capable of holding liquids..??

I'm a bit confused as to why you seem happy to shell out £200 for a new wheel set, yet you won't consider paying your LBS around £30 to service your freehub....

GrahamGillooly

If you're prepared to pay for a new wheelset anyway, why not have a go at repairing your current one? It might not be as complicated as you think, and even if you can't manage it, take it to your LBS and pay them to fix it.

Atleast then you have tried and possibly completed it, and learnt something along the way.

But i think you want to buy a new wheelset anyways.

Anonymous

Course I have something capable of holding liquid, I meant I don't have any solvent or w/e to soak the parts in.

Well I want a new wheelset as it's going concave. I dont want to do the hub myself if their is a large chance I'll screw it up and I DON'T want to take it to the LBS for them to fix it as thats not getting me anywhere.

I don't NEED a new wheelset if the rims will hold for another 1000+ miles.

I want to/need to do it myself, but unsure what else apart from the following I need now:

Chain whip
Special tool thing to remove the cassette
Cone wrenches
Lithium white grease stuff
new set of BB's

That all I should need?

softlad

willhub wrote:

I dont want to do the hub myself if their is a large chance I'll screw it up and I DON'T want to take it to the LBS for them to fix it as thats not getting me anywhere.

i'm sure there must be some logic in there somewhere, but I can't see it. If you haven't got the facilities to repair it yourself - and you don't want anyone else to fix it for you, then I think you have just run out of options...

Anonymous

softlad wrote:

willhub wrote:

I dont want to do the hub myself if their is a large chance I'll screw it up and I DON'T want to take it to the LBS for them to fix it as thats not getting me anywhere.

i'm sure there must be some logic in there somewhere, but I can't see it. If you haven't got the facilities to repair it yourself - and you don't want anyone else to fix it for you, then I think you have just run out of options...

above post.

Slow Downcp

You may not need to service the freehub assembly itself - removing the freehub as a complete assembly is straight forward, and then remove cones and axle, clean out inside hub, regrease, install new bearings and reassemble (taking care to adjust cones so that there's no play but run free).

Anonymous

freehub assembly has bearings in no? Means I do, it's stiff in there and creeky, and it sounds like the bearings are abit worn tbh.

Anonymous

It is the freehub that is the main problem right? with the bearings? Thats what I have to remove no? So if it goes wrong cant I just shell out on a new freehub?

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/Cycle/7/Light ... _(DT_Swiss)/5360040340/

redddraggon

willhub wrote:

It is the freehub that is the main problem right? with the bearings? Thats what I have to remove no? So if it goes wrong cant I just shell out on a new freehub?

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/Cycle/7/Light ... _(DT_Swiss)/5360040340/

That freehub ain't the one you want unless you have Lightweight wheels

Slow Downcp

If it's the freehub then it's a simple job to replace with a new one. It may the the bearings in the hub itself though, rather than the freehub assembly.

gkerr4

you don't have to explain to us - if you fancy a new set of wheels then go ahead!

There is a link to a set of fulcrum racing5 evos for £130 somewhere on a thread at the moment - typically I can't find it - but my money would go on them!

Anonymous

If you're in Manchester then an LBS I would recommend you visit is Rick Gren Cycles in Handorth on the A34 Wilmslow Rd.

They pride themselves on their wheelbuilding...

Anonymous

No, I need to do it myself, Manchester and my bike does not get on, more problems WILL occur, I need to do it myself.

Besides I could not get there to pick the wheel up or get back, I cant be on this bus lark.

So how many bearings will I need?, and how do I fully clean the inside? Do I need the fully soak it? in something? maybe white spirit?

Lagavulin

Fulcrum Racing 5 Evolution for £131.99

Lagavulin

Though quite at what point you specify whether you want a Shimano HG/SRAM or Campagnolo splined rear wheel I'm not sure. :?:

Anonymous

I have shimano gears and mech.

I'll try repair the hub, if it fails I don't know what I'll do, I get easily stressed. Probs order those wheels. I really want to successfully repair the hub though.

SO how many sets of bearing will I need? Will white spirit or something cheapo be ok for soaking the stuff in? Or maybe just water and washing up liquid?

softlad

willhub wrote:

I'll try repair the hub, if it fails I don't know what I'll do, I get easily stressed.

I may have missed some of the logic here - but you seem to have an irrational fear of bike shops? I expect the wheel could have been repaired in the time this thread has been running and you could be back out riding again. That is, after all, what it is all about - isn't it..?

Lagavulin

willhub wrote:

I have shimano gears and mech.

Sorry Will, that was me wondering at what point in the buying process from that website you choose the freehub you need.

robbarker

willhub wrote:

So how many bearings will I need?, and how do I fully clean the inside?

9x 1/4" balls, assuming a Shimano hub or anything else "standard".

Get a few pieces of old cut-up towel and some GT85 or white spirit - that will clean the bearing shell out well enough.

robbarker

willhub wrote:

So how many bearings will I need?, and how do I fully clean the inside?

9x 1/4" balls each side, assuming a Shimano hub or anything else "standard".

Get a few pieces of old cut-up towel and some GT85 or white spirit - that will clean the bearing shell out well enough.

Get some tweezers and a long slim screwdriver too - you will drop at least one into the hollow bit of axle between the two cups the first time you do it! You'll need to be able to retireve it..