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What else does the same job as a Rockshox Revelation u-turn?

NorthwindNorthwind Posts: 14,675
edited December 2008 in MTB general
ie, lightweight, height adjustable, and ace? :lol: I'm thinking the Fox TALAS 140 RLC is reading from the same page... Is there anything else to consider out there?
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  • zero303zero303 Posts: 1,162
    Na, I'd say it's between those two...
  • supersonicsupersonic Posts: 82,708 Lives Here
    09 Rev? Or the earlier 130mm versions? As Tora 318 uturn coil and Recon 351 uturncoil are very very similar.
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  • NorthwindNorthwind Posts: 14,675
    Well, it'll be going on a Scandal frame which On One only rate to 130mm (and it's a bit slack at that, too, if I've got the numbers right). So older 130mm model is probably better for me.

    Ah, I'd totally overlooked the Recon. They both come in a fair bit heavier, is there much performance difference, stiffness etc? Or to put it differently, does the 08 Rev do anything that the others don't?
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  • supersonicsupersonic Posts: 82,708 Lives Here
    08 and before

    Damper wise, the 351 and 318 is exactly the same as the Rev except the Recon and Tora has a fixed floodgate setting (the rev is adjustable). Coil Uturn springs are the same, Rev has Dual Air, Recon and Tora is Solo air (as with Totems and Lyrics). Structurally they have the same lowers (except 08 Recons which are slightly different), bushings, seals, the same steerer if alu is the flavour leaving the Tora with cromo steel legs, and the Tora and Recon with a beefier but heavier crown.

    So....

    Coil wise hardly anything in it! 08 Coil rev is 4.5llbs, coil Recon 4.73lbs, coil Tora 4.9lbs. All perform similarly, the latter actually stiffest and strongest.

    Dual Air Rev is 3.75lbs which is a nice saving. This is a corking deal:

    http://www.jejamescycles.co.uk/id35029.html
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  • mattyboy199mattyboy199 Posts: 627
    dont marzocchi do anything decent these days ?
    Show me your green bits i might buy them !
  • NorthwindNorthwind Posts: 14,675
    Thanks once again supersonic! Lot of food for thought there. I think I'd still lean towards the dual air Rev there, it's a fair old chunk of weight it saves. But it does give a lot more options.
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  • breezerbreezer Posts: 1,225
    My 08 dual air rev's were over 4lb as were my previous 130m talas rlc's, don't believe manufacturer figures! The revs were nice forks though. My current Manitou's are under 4lb however with bolt thru axle and on the fly travel adjust from the bar from 140 down to about 30 if I wish. No idea why rock shox still use the un-usable whilst riding, u turn, they need to get upto date
  • supersonicsupersonic Posts: 82,708 Lives Here
    Because it is not primarily a trailside feature, it is to tailor the travel to your frame and preferences, but can be used on the trail if you wish. It is still the best coil adjuster on the market. Air uturn revs weigh more, as do poplocked ones.
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  • NorthwindNorthwind Posts: 14,675
    Hmm, Merlin have the Fox 32 Talas now at £251... The jejames price there is for the fixed length revelation sadly, the best I can find for a u-turn dual air revelation is £265. Is there much to choose between the two?
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  • BlackSpurBlackSpur Posts: 4,228
    Bear in mind the Talas at Merlin is an older model (06 I think) and is the RL version, so no compression adjust.
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  • NorthwindNorthwind Posts: 14,675
    Ah. Well sod that then :lol: Absolute last question (promise), the new Revelations are slightly longer, 110mm to 140mm, which doesn't quite suit. It seems like last years' are already vanishing from the shelves, is it possible to shorten the new ones to match? Just as a plan B, I'd sooner just get something that suits off the shelf.
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  • BlackSpurBlackSpur Posts: 4,228
    You could just never take them up to full travel :wink: May be possibly to use All Travel spacers.
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  • petercarmpetercarm Posts: 68
    The 2009 Reba's are within an ace of the old Revelation length at 120mm. You won't get U-turn, but it isn't a must have feature on forks at this length IMO.
  • NorthwindNorthwind Posts: 14,675
    Mm, I kind of agree with that, but the reason I'm liking the idea of u-turn is that I'm just not sure exactly what sort of bike is right for me- all my riding up til this year was on an ancient steel rigid and modern bikes freak me out a bit :lol: . It's going into a Scandal, which is sort of an overbuilt XC racer by all accounts, slightly steep at 100mm, slightly slack and loose at 130mm, but built to not just break in half with the longer forks. I like the idea of running with that versatility and using it to figure out what suits me, and it does seem like a frame that'll make effective use of the adjustability. I've no idea how much I'll actually change the height but options are always good I think! And this'll be my only bike, for at least the next year or so, so it'll be good to keep it versatile.

    It also really appeals to my sense of neatness that On One recommend the frame for 100-130mm ;)
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