Flights of steps...
Northwind
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OK, this'll sound daft, but I've barely ridden down any more than a couple of steps at a time since I was about 16, and back then the accepted approach was "Charge, then lock the rear brake and skid down them, and hope the steps finish before you fall off". I was riding about the other night and approached an old flight of steps (about 8 or 9) that I used to just bomb down with no technique (on a raleigh marauder made of lead and chewing gum), but as soon as I started thinking about it- moving my weight back etc as if descending a drop-off off road- I totally bottled it, and ended up having to walk it :oops: I can do them fine by the old approach- just charge and hope I survive- but not with any finesse at all or any real control.
So... What's the right way for descending flights of steps in control? I can do it fast, but not with any real speed control, which is very sketchy on longer flights. I think partly it's the front fork that's putting me off, I'm still finding that sometimes old rigid fork reflexes/expectations kick in and the suspension freaks me out. Not because it's not helping, but just because it's not what I expect.
Any suggestions?
So... What's the right way for descending flights of steps in control? I can do it fast, but not with any real speed control, which is very sketchy on longer flights. I think partly it's the front fork that's putting me off, I'm still finding that sometimes old rigid fork reflexes/expectations kick in and the suspension freaks me out. Not because it's not helping, but just because it's not what I expect.
Any suggestions?
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put your body weight back, go easy on the brakes (dont skid) and just like anything else practice makes perfect0
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Bunnyhop before the stairs so that you are landing front wheel first onto the first stair. That way you are on the stairs top to bottom and not landing half way down them or to flat. I think this may be called pre-jumping?
Of course once you get confident you can intentionally land a fair way down the stairs or completely clear the first set and land on the second set. Stair gap.0 -
Ah, well, I was just figuring on rolling them till I get my mojo back Funny, I'll happily go down steeper, rough slops offroad but for some reason steps are just freaking me outUncompromising extremist0
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Fast and smooth, weight well back and lay off the brakes.
If you approach a flight of steps too slowly you've more chance of the front wheel twisting to one side and pitching you over the bars (keep completely OFF the front brake in any case).
Make sure you've got a good run out too. And practice makes perfect - start with three or four, move onto 5 or six and so on.0 -
not being silly here - but go fast. I've ridden down a steep 20 set on a bmx and the 2nd half was actually bearable. keep the speed up and you'll skim across the tops of the steps and it'll be lovely and smooth. go slow and you'll be bouncing up and down every single step, quite possibly loosing balance. keep right off the brakes to the bottom and obviously do the whole weight back stance.0
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Ahhhh... So my childhood approach was actually better than my adult one! Cool, I'll try thatUncompromising extremist0
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yeah, weight back, fastish, straight line and only use the brakes once you're on the flat ground at the bottom.0
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Try riding up them again If you get into a good rythem it's good fun, and good practice for technical climbs out on the singletrack with roots and rocks etc. Going down, as the others said, bomb it down teenager stylie0
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I tend to think of them like a steep slope like those on the way into a bombhole, just with bumps. The method to getting the bike under control is much the same.Giant TCR advanced 2 (Summer/race)
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I've never been able to ride up steps. Well, 2 steps I could do, essentially by ramming them :roll:Uncompromising extremist0
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Ride over H first.........0
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andyturner28 wrote:cheehee wrote:Ride over H first.........
H, that annoying little welsh man from the teenie bopper group Steps.0 -
Now and again on a weekend I do Urban riding in Central London etc
When it comes to getting off the bridges and down to the bottom
I would not bunny hop then land next level then down again
has I find these short landings nearly just the length of the bike.
I normally roll off if unsure of people coming up
If safe then get over fast and blast down But at
all times cover the brakes.
Best thing is to always look ahead and not the front of the bike
has you proberly more to mess things up.
If you look on you tube under urban downhill mountain biking0 -
grantway wrote:Now and again on a weekend I do Urban riding in Central London etc
When it comes to getting off the bridges and down to the bottom
I would not bunny hop then land next level then down again
has I find these short landings nearly just the length of the bike.
I normally roll off if unsure of people coming up
If safe then get over fast and blast down But at
all times cover the brakes.
Best thing is to always look ahead and not the front of the bike
has you proberly more to mess things up.
If you look on you tube under urban downhill mountain biking0 -
grantway wrote:Now and again on a weekend I do Urban riding in Central London etc
When it comes to getting off the bridges and down to the bottom
I would not bunny hop then land next level then down again
has I find these short landings nearly just the length of the bike.
I normally roll off if unsure of people coming up
If safe then get over fast and blast down But at
all times cover the brakes.
Best thing is to always look ahead and not the front of the bike
has you proberly more to mess things up.
If you look on you tube under urban downhill mountain biking
Wow. :shock:0 -
I was so impressed, i double-posted. Oops! :oops:0
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As Yoda would say, 'don't think, do'. Yep, no brakes is best but a ittle rear brake is acceptable if necessary.'Happiness serves hardly any other purpose than to make unhappiness possible' Marcel Proust.0
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andyturner28 wrote:grantway wrote:Now and again on a weekend I do Urban riding in Central London etc
When it comes to getting off the bridges and down to the bottom
I would not bunny hop then land next level then down again
has I find these short landings nearly just the length of the bike.
I normally roll off if unsure of people coming up
If safe then get over fast and blast down But at
all times cover the brakes.
Best thing is to always look ahead and not the front of the bike
has you proberly more to mess things up.
If you look on you tube under urban downhill mountain biking
I think its a Haiku0